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Leggy
ok, I started to fill the box with oil, look under neath only to see it pouring stright out onto the deck by the fly wheel.... confused.gif anyone had this problem as i dont wana wreck my clutch and have to take everything back out. any help appreciated smile.gif
Gaz
where are you putting the oil in? shock.gif
Gaz




you need a 17mm hex bit to remove the plugs, I've used a wheel bolt in the past, or even better a locking wheel bolt adapter (slightly longer so easier to get a spanner on) When topped up the level of oil should be at the height of the bottom of the fill hole.
Gaz
Its either that or the input shaft seal is buggered. confused.gif
Leggy
Cheers gaz I'm such an asshole surprised.gif thank god i only put a few ml in there. Thats the last time i use a haynes diagram, have u seen the drawing where it shows to put it in! well my clutch is still good so thank F**K I aint gotta pull it all back out. what is that hole for then? Its EXTREMLY misleading. surprised.gif with the mechanical knowledge i have ud think i could get something this simple right. ill post a video up tommorow now as times gettin on now. goes damn well though, and the extra cog is godly. cool.gif
Gaz
Its an inspection hole for the flywheel/clutch, although I'm not sure why its needed. confused.gif Youre not the first one to do it, I think this will become an FAQ. cool.gif
Leggy
lol yea luckily i got away with not having to need a new clutch, which i guess others arnt so lucky with. Great inspection hole though, u can see everything through there wink.gif THIS SHOULD BE A TOPPED FAQ cool.gif
NeilG40
QUOTE (Gaz)
Its an inspection hole for the flywheel/clutch, although I'm not sure why its needed.  :? Youre not the first one to do it, I think this will become an FAQ.  8-)


I think its for setting the ignition timing, seem to remember reading it in the haynes manual
series2
put that in FAQ bud will help others
Gaz
Done. cool.gif

QUOTE
I think its for setting the ignition timing, seem to remember reading it in the haynes manual


yeah I've heard that before too, They must use the dowels on the flywheel or something. seems like an odd way of doing it to me! confused.gif
Leggy
lesson learnt ...dont do this. all i can say is slippy slippidy dooo razz.gif yay yet another few hours of my life suckubused from the polo lol.gif
G40will
i used that hole to lock the con rod on my gt so i could remove the lower pulley wink.gif
13kpologt
what r the 3 bolt things on the front of the box? (if you no what i mean) thay r in a line(thay r like 1's you wood fill up the box from.. the top to fill middel 1 for the level and last one for emptying it)..not shore if this is right but thought i wood just ask and find out...
Gaz
They probably hold some of the interals to the gearbox casing. I wouldnt touch anything execpt for the two bolts in the picture when it comes to filling and emptying the gearbox with oil.
Mariojoshi
fuck.. I've just done this too.

how long will it take to burn off? should i drive around town for an hour or something till it heats off? rather than let it soak into the clutch?
confused.gif
liviococcia
Hello All, i've got a 2001 Polo 1.4 Auto, i know that the transmission units filled 'for life', but i want to
renew the oil and gearbox filter, are the drain and fill points the same for this model's year, the haynes
manual dosn't give many details about this Polo's auto unit, or how to do this, but they mention somthing about measuring the oil temp, i don't understand, can i do it?, or is it a definite job only for a VW garage, and not an independant garage.

If anyones got a set of service manual instructions on how to go about this, i'd give it a go myself.

cheers
gavinbing
Hi there i need real big help, i dropped the oil out of the gearbox from a large bout about 22mm the otherside of the drain hole, i dont have a filler hole in the same place as the picture you have showed me, there is a allen key hole that looks like hat on the front of the gearbox would this be it any help would be gratefull thanks
Keith
Same goes here!!! No filler hole as per pic, but a similar looking thing on the front side of the box, near the sender - anyone know if this was a revision???
smithysmoo
If the inspection cap was missing would oil come out of here. Only mine is missing and I've noticed oil on the underside of the coolant hose directly above it.
Gaz
No, the oil is probably from the distributor end seal.
smithysmoo
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No, the oil is probably from the distributor end seal.


Will have a look there, but its not engine oil that leaking as the stuff is that clear and thin that at first I thought it was water but it does have a slight oily consistency when you rub it between your fingers. So I'm lost at where the stuffs coming from. crybaby.gif Any other ideas
twin40racer
How much oil will the 5 speed box from a polo 1990 ish (non GT, carb'd with ECU) take
Gaz
QUOTE (smithysmoo @ Thursday 24th May 2007 - 7:57am) *
QUOTE
No, the oil is probably from the distributor end seal.


Will have a look there, but its not engine oil that leaking as the stuff is that clear and thin that at first I thought it was water but it does have a slight oily consistency when you rub it between your fingers. So I'm lost at where the stuffs coming from. crybaby.gif Any other ideas


late reply but gearbox oil is really thick. Much thicker than engine oil. The 5-speeds take about 3.1 litres.
kev...
if you level plugs on the front its a later box no panic just fill till it trickles out then put the plug back in job done biggrin.gif

boost
The inspection hole on the top of the box is to set up the timing and get the crank on TDC. There is a mark on the flywheel which lines up with a casting on the housing. You need to remove the complete plastic bung to see it not just the pull out centre part.
chegers
I'm glad I'm not the only idiot to fill my bell housing with gearbox oil haha! I had a workshop of gearbox repair guys laughing at me when I told em sad.gif
cheys03
Just changed the oil on mine - CEG 5sp box.

Has definately made a noticable difference to the smoothness of gear changes. Also it no longer crunches into reverse nearly as bad or as often (do still dip the clutch and wait a couple of seconds before changing into reverse though).
£15 well spent I reckon.
For anyone intrested, just used GSF's Fuchs semi-synthetic 75w-90.
stephenmk3
just changed the gear box oil on my 4 speed mk3, the differance is amazing, i jus the diagram above, wa sa lot of help, cheers


i also changed the engine oil and filter, again, suprising differance it made, so much smoother,

gearbox oil i used was semi-synthetic 75w-90, 10 quid wel spent
superdan91
I know this is an old thread but I found the pics to be useful after searching everywhere to try and find how to change gearbox oil.

Could someone please tell me if that pic is similar to what is on a 6n2?

Also how much roughly will a garage charge to change the oil (just for the labour)
MikeyMK
Up to the MK2f which was discontinued in '94, the fill plug is in the diff housing above the drain plug.

From the new model (MK3 aka mk4) its on the front wall of the gearbox, due to the different accessibility. That's the known '084-085' unit,recognisable by its horizontal cable-pull clutch lever,as fitted to all Polos from 1975-2002.
nige8021
QUOTE (MikeyMK @ Tuesday 12th April 2011 - 1:40am) *
Up to the MK2f which was discontinued in '94, the fill plug is in the diff housing above the drain plug.

From the new model (MK3 aka mk4) its on the front wall of the gearbox, due to the different accessibility. That's the known '084-085' unit,recognisable by its horizontal cable-pull clutch lever,as fitted to all Polos from 1975-2002.


My Mk4 1996 with a DDH gearbox the filler is on the diff housing
MikeyMK
Weird. Must be a pain in the arse to get to lol.gif

i dont know if this was the case on early 6n's or what (no telling if yours is the original box or casing).
PoloAEX
Year 1997, 115.000km.
I also changed my gearbox oil. It's like a new gearbox, so smooth and silent it's just amazing. Before it used to make some noise except when clutch is pressed, than in reverse sometimes would grind, when driving and selecting speed from higher to lower speed it would go harder.
Now all that is gone. VW "longlife" my ass.
Old oil was dirty (dark golden color) and new one is like water.
Oil is original VW with code G060726A2. I bought 3L and 2.6 is what is used.
Around 200km took new oil to start fully working.
polow
I'm not technical at all, just started to attempt things on the 6n2 and all i have to say is could they have made this any more of a pain in the ass to refill, i dont want to drain it because i cant get to it to refill it.....do i realy have to take the drive shaft off too... if i disconnect at the box end will i be able to move it up out the way to gain a little more accsess to the filler hole or are we talking the whole assembely too and including the wheel etc ?
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