If you lower your car on standard shocks, it won't handle much better than standard, and your shocks will wear out very quickly. You can lower 40mm on standard shocks but they wont last very long, any lower will wear them out silly quick.

Can people verify this? All without arch work

MK4 - (All assumed to be 7/7.5" wide)

17s - Gonna scrub at 40mm down, and hit the innerwing on full lock.
16s - OK to 60mm down with 195/40 tyres, with any bigger will scrub.
15s - OK till 80mm + down on 195/45s (depending on offset)

13x6s - et 13 didnt scrub at 60mm down on 175/50s
16x7.5 - et35 lowered 60mm on 195/45s scrubbed and needed arch work (or smaller tyres)

MK2 and 3 coupes (assuming they will be the same, and 6/7" widths and normal offsets)

15s - 40mm down will scrub
14s - OK to 70mm I've heard on 195/45s

13x7 et -7 front 13x8 et6 rear lowered 60/40 on 175/50s no scrubbage

Obviously alot depends on offset, and how hard the suspension is....

Can everyone add to this with what suspension they are running, and offsets if the arches have been rolled etc? And for Mk1's, Mk2n3 squarebacks. Mk5 must be the same as a Mk4?

13x5.5 ET19 -70mm 165/55/13 mk1 ('81) Derby. Doesn't scrub on the arches but if you hit a small pot hole it will bash the fuck out of the arches.

13x4.5 ET45 -70mm standard tyre size (forget the numbers) doesn't scub, not on full lock and not on speed bumps or anything.

mines on 7x17s with a 50mm drop and after removin mud flaps it doesnt rub at all,if ur drivin it very hard u get a tiny bit on the inner arch but nowt to loose sleep over,et 40 by the way

mk3 coupe standard suspension rubs on top and inside edge of arch with 195/50/15s

lowered 25mm on g40 springs with 185/60/14s is fine though.

Can add another one. 13x7 et-7 with 175 50s front, and 13x8 et 6 with 195 45s back, lowered 60/40 on an HnR kit, doesnt scrub at all, not even at 30mph speed bump.

Are you sure aboot that? i swear thats what i've got and its not rubbed at all.

absolutely i had to take them off cuz they were unsafe they were on for 6 weeks and the tyres needed replacing from new.

"lowered 25mm on g40 springs with 185/60/14s is fine though"
really? because my gt is on standerd supension with 185/60/14 VW Alloys and they scrub like a bitch! ys that then?

doesn't it depend on how hard ur suspension is. Standard mk3 polo suspension is waaay soft

I'm really confused now, i have bought my 40mm drop kit and by the sounds of it i have wasted my money if i cant put it on the car now...I think thats what I'm running at the min 195.50.15 will i be able to lower it?
o and i got this as well, i dont know what this means either lol 4x100 ET38

195 50 15s will scrub for def on 40mm.

i had a set of scalla wheel's with 185-55's on and lowered about 60mm,
that never rubed at all.

Mk3 Slammed on Coilovers Pulls your arches down which aint good....

mk3, 13x7 et3 all round. -70mm on spax adjustable damping kit. Arch lips bashed back and sealed. Backs rub occasionally, not sure about fronts but theres about 2cm's clearance. Also, hits the floor very regularly, but I think thats mostly because of my terrible hanging exhaust

i had trouble with this tyre size at standard height on a mk3

lol i guess mines...urm speacial.

I'm gonna have to get some smaller wheels me thinks....i want to have my cars arse scraping on the ground

i had trouble with 195/50/15s on my mk3 gt and it scrubbed like hell then swapped to 195/45s and it doesnt scrub unless I'm fully loaded (4 people) i was talking to a guy and the manc meet on sunday and he was saying he got different bump stops he was running 15" ats cups on 195/45's on a g40 and it sorted his problems

mk5 with 15 x 6.5 80mm down will scrub on bumps when wheels arnt straight

just wondering does anyone know if lowering down a mk2 polo estate on 40mm lowering springs , will there need to be arch work done to get on 7x13 ats classic alloys

185/50s on 14" wheels. Lowered 40mm will I get any scrubbing?

gettin a bit mixed up with myself,..but if its ok to go -70mm on 14's then I'm assuming it will be fine to go a -60mm drop all round on std 13" steelies,..can anyone just confirm this please

provided you have a low profile tyre, yes, that should be ok.

thanks man,.was gettin worried then lol

anybody

All depends on offset and width...

MK3 Coupe, Lowered roughly 60-70mm on front, 14x6 P-slots ET38. 185/60/14's Used to scrub on bends and bumps but bent arch lips inwards and stopped now.

60 drop on my old saloon with 185/55/14s no rubbin but was rock hard goin for 195/45/15s on 60 drop this time

mk2 breadvan on 13"/5.5J ET30 with 185/60's scrubs at the back on motorway bumps, stock suspension is the reason me thinks wollow wollow

time to lower

13" 5.5J ET47 165/65 MK1 & MK2 = No scrubbing / not lowered
13" 5.5J ET32 185/60 MK2 = no scrubbing / not lowered

From experience (and contrary to what's been written - no offence meant)

40mm drop or less will be fine on standard shocks on a Mk2/3. Not ideal, maybe, but I ran around with that setup for quite a few years with no adverse affects, as did many other people - anything lower will need shorter shocks though and it's better to use gas shocks as direct replacements over the crappy oil ones.

195/45/15 wheels/tyres @ 6J and ET 38 will / will not rub depending on how lucky you are with your car build. Mine only caught VERY slightly at one rear corner, even under load, but other people had to carry out various degrees of arch work, although none included any serious metal removal.

As 195/45/15 is pretty much standard rolling radius, then using a tyre size calculator should give you a good idea as to what variations on a theme you can / should be able to get away with - although it's not a 100% method............

any info on what size wheels / offset and so on that you can get on a 9N?

do you think a 70mill drop with ats classics (13-7) will be ok? with pullling the arches???

I can 2nd this!!!!!!

mk3 polo gt

85/70mm drop on fk shocks and springs rears on third line down no scrubbage on standard gt steels with standard tyres not sure of size 165/?? 13's except when loaded up for college over big motorway bumps

i tried 195/45 15x7 ats cups but the arch basically sat on the arches lol

when 4 up on the driver steels the jetex system catches on the floor on the smallest of bumps lol

when normal 1-2 up speed bumps have to be negotiated very carfully else the floor can come very close to saying hello to them I've not beached it yet tho lol

Ash

Hiya guys, i'm looking at getting a mk3 coupe, and was wanting to lower it 60mm with PhilJ kit, on 15" teledials, 15x7 with 195/45 tires, ET32

gonna have trouble?

I'm looking at gettin 14's not throo choice but for brake upgrade on the 80mm drop.. take it i'm going to have to stick wi 7" or something similar?

i want it decked and 13's but is now not a choice so maby going for quite a low profile even on the 14's.

i hope there's no rubbing althought i've stipped the polo out and no back seats with two buckets... heres hoping all will be well

Can you fit 16's on a mk3?

thanks for the info I'm thinking about lowing 60mm on spring as moneyus tight at the moment I'm running 16 by 7.0 with low pro's not sure what tyre just wanted to knowe wheather itll scrub as my mate reckons 40mm on 16's will scrub on full lock

GT - Phil J 70mm kit, 165/55/14's on BBS RA443's, think et35? rubbage?

Thanks

Rich

How u doin guys?

Just bought a polo GTI 2001, i wanna make it look crazy hot and have already decided on the wheels. I'm just after a bit of advice on a few things,

1. I need to get some coilovers but i'm not sure which ones, i am pretty set on some FK's but can't really afford the highsport. Will the entry levels do the job as i am looking to spend no more than £300, if so any suggestions where to get them from?

2. I wanna get some carmonals (16x7.5) will these be able to go straight on with any archwork? These wheels also need a universal fitment, are these safe to use?



Thanks!

Hi people!

I have a 1986 MK2 polo breadvan and I want to fit 13" ATS classics on it. I also want to lower it. How far should I lower it and which lowering kit should I be looking at buying?
Thanks!
H

6.5X15 wheels with some 195/50/15 tyres on... dropped 70mm on PhilJ coilies with no scrubbage at all...

6x13 ats classics dropped 80mm on a mk3 polo are they gonna scrub??

Does anyone know if putting some 40mm springs from a mk1 golf will fit on to a mk4 polo on standard shocks. I've been trying to find out for a few days now and hoping they will, but if not then i guess I'm just going have to save up lol

Thanx in advance

I've got a mk3 which I'm planning on lowering 60mm on a philj kit (if that makes a difference ) I've already got myself some 15/5.5j wheels and need to know what tyres will work? I'm thinking about 185/45 how will this work? anyone know?? Thanks

Hi guys, i have an Mk6 and i'm fitting v-maxx coilies this week.. i wanna go as low as possible (that's about 60-70mm with these coilovers)... tires 195/40 16, alloys 7Jx16 ET10 (originally it's 30 but i have to use 20mm spread plates)... will it be possible?

How low can i go in my 6n on 14s (bbs ra 6j) on what tyres?

Anyone, there seems to be no mention of 14s on this thread.

Seems my 15" dreams have been dashed..