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GiorgioGT



Am in the procces of fittign these at the moment.

The holes on the new blocks, when over the ARB, dont seem to line up with the holes on the car.

1. What am I doing wrong.
2. What are the metal plates for/Where do they go?
3. What are the 2 circle things for
Maxeh


Dunno if that helps or not!
gofasterpinch
why dont you just whore out my photobucket a bit more like!

ripley, you have to pull the anti roll bar forward to fit them
GiorgioGT
thats perfect boys. gentle persuasion is the way forward.
pinches can you unlock your photobucket account so I can browse around please biggrin.gif


are them round things just to hold the blocks in place?
uel_coupe_s
QUOTE (---Ripley--- @ Saturday 7th April 2007 - 11:23am) *
are them round things just to hold the blocks in place?


i think the idea behind them is to stop the arb moving side to side in the bushes.
gofasterpinch
QUOTE (---Ripley--- @ Saturday 7th April 2007 - 11:23am) *
thats perfect boys. gentle persuasion is the way forward.
pinches can you unlock your photobucket account so I can browse around please biggrin.gif


are them round things just to hold the blocks in place?



like fuck i can! i cant let everyone in on my top secret race spec shit.

i used the "widow maker" jack to push the arb forwards. those "round things" are donut clamps they stop the ARB sliding from side to side through the bushes
Maxeh
You don't wanna see the rest of his Photobucket, theres some sick shit on there paranoid.gif
gofasterpinch
at least theres no pictures of a black mk3 with a smoothed colour coded front bumper....in colour concept blue!
Quinny
I've put these on 3 or 4 different times now, different polos of course.

I wrote an easy way of doing it by leaving the wheels on (they pull the bar forward a little) and using trolley jacks in different places but I can't find the file.

I found the best thing to do was to bolt the top halfs onto the car, jack the ARB up until it starts to lift the car, support the arb with acel stands and lift again untill the arb falls into place, lift the car another notch so that the blocks remain in place when un bolted. Then simply bolt the blocks on with the metal brackets onto the bottom, the blocks must go on evenly otherwise they will get caught on the thread, both sets of blocks should be tightened evenly too.

The blocks should pull the bar forward, the tracking will need re-setting.
Maxeh
QUOTE (gofasterpinch @ Saturday 7th April 2007 - 7:51pm) *
at least theres no pictures of a black mk3 with a smoothed colour coded front bumper....in colour concept blue!


haha that looked good and you knows it!
GiorgioGT
i found getting a 6ft6 16 stone animal of a man to lever the arb using the lower slut brace helps the holes line up

I just put the car on axel stands. wheels just off the floor then did it that way.

these things need instructions
gofasterpinch
you need to get your tracking done now as the geometry will be all over the gaff
supercharged spaniel
by the way these are mint!!!
GiorgioGT
QUOTE (supercharged spaniel @ Sunday 8th April 2007 - 12:37pm) *
by the way these are mint!!!



i spent about 3 hours trying to fit these f'ing things the right way round. such a pain to line up.


nearly lost it going down some b-roads paranoid.gif . Think I need to speak to philJ.

arb blocks and lower strut brace. by far the most cost effective mods regarding handling.

thanks for everybodies help thumbsup.gif . Pinches - I owe you some beer dude
gofasterpinch
I'm not suprised you nearly lost it if you haven't had it tracked up. i drove mine to get tracked and had about 5 minor incidents at roundabouts on the way there! mine was toeing in by 10degrees!
polokid
also it worth changing the standard radiator mount, to a stronger peace of box section.......

also what are G-ladersite to deal with? I'm gonna be buying their racingkit 2 from them.. x2 arb bushes, x2 inner's, x2 outer's ?
gofasterpinch
easy, just paypal them the cash and your gear arrives 3-5 days later
PeteG40
QUOTE (polokid @ Sunday 8th April 2007 - 5:06pm) *
also it worth changing the standard radiator mount, to a solid peace of box section..

also what are G-ladersite to deal with? I'm gonna be buying their racingkit 2 from them.. x2 arb bushes, x2 inner's, x2 outer's ?


how can something be solid and box section?
gofasterpinch
lol @ peace, good look with your GCSE's
PhilJ
I've found it easier to either jack the arb up while its up the air, or lower the car down a bit off the jack (with the wheels on) n the arb will move into a nicer place to get it bolted up.
polokid
thanks already done my GCSE'S a's b's and c's !!
and i ment solid how it fits/strctualy !
GiorgioGT
I ended up taking the lower strut brace off, jacking the ARB in and it seemed to slot into place.

G-Laderseite are spot on. Paypal fees, plus exchange rate fees. But they speak english so its all good
polokid
QUOTE (---Ripley--- @ Sunday 8th April 2007 - 8:07pm) *
G-Laderseite are spot on. Paypal fees, plus exchange rate fees. But they speak english so its all good



good good, will be ordering the racingkit 2 up soon... thumbsup.gif
currie
QUOTE (polokid @ Sunday 8th April 2007 - 5:06pm) *
also it worth changing the standard radiator mount, to a stronger peace of box section.......


if you have fitted a lower front brace bar there isnt really much need for doing the rad bar too as the front beam and brace willl be perfectly strong enough.
tobyk
Looks like there will be a few more posts on this in coming weeks after the group buy!
Danny Lee
I'm stuck at the first hurdle, what did people use to take the blocks apart when they got them?

lol.gif
GiorgioGT
2 small screw drivers. they just prise apart.

stick them in the holes and pull them in opposite directions. like a X shape.
Danny Lee
Righto, Cheers.

lol.gif
tobyk
I got one side in a vice and tapped the metal bushes out with a hammer and drift.
bort
I'm SORRY BUT THIS IS A 10 MIN JOB!!!!FIT AS REMOVED BUT IN REVERSE ORDER.
GiorgioGT
QUOTE (bort @ Thursday 21st June 2007 - 11:13pm) *
I'm SORRY BUT THIS IS A 10 MIN JOB!!!!FIT AS REMOVED BUT IN REVERSE ORDER.


you sound like a haynes manual.
heartagram
Its only easy when you know how wink.gif
damageandy
QUOTE
I'm SORRY BUT THIS IS A 10 MIN JOB!!!!FIT AS REMOVED BUT IN REVERSE ORDER.


took me about 30mins tbh. prising the arb forward enough and holding it while trying to put the bolts in was the hardest bit, then seeing that the strut brace slightly fouls it, so that hole had to be made abit bigger.
Polo6n1600i
I'm having these fitted to my car tomorrow! Do you think it would be a good idea to use a ratchet strap from the ged's brace back onto the arb to move it forwards?
tobyk
You boys have got it easy I'm changing the TCAs and the entire anti roll bar at the same time! lol.gif
bort
QUOTE (Polo6n1600i @ Friday 22nd June 2007 - 11:42pm) *
I'm having these fitted to my car tomorrow! Do you think it would be a good idea to use a ratchet strap from the ged's brace back onto the arb to move it forwards?


that was what i did......make sure you jack both wheels up
gofasterpinch
i did mine on the ground and use a scissor jack between the arb and the gearbox
damageandy
can the arb be bolted down in the wrong place ie too far over one side? Before it could move slightly but with these new blocks and clamps its cant move at all.
dvderlm
QUOTE (damageandy @ Saturday 23rd June 2007 - 4:04pm) *
can the arb be bolted down in the wrong place ie too far over one side?

If it's too far to one side, your steering wheel will be crooked, and you'll very quickly get feathering scrubbage on the shoulder of a front tyre.

Surely you only put the polomint clamps once it's settled into place.
Final tightening of the green clamps once lowered ground then drive or push
twenty feet forwards, twenty feet back, full left lock, full right lock, check nothings come loose, then forwards and backwards again and see if it gets back to the same spot.
Then fit the polomints.

That's my plan. And then I'm taking it for wheel alignment.

I'm putting my polomints on the outside of the green blocks as there's a bend in the bar where I hoped to put them on the inside.
sooped_up_g
QUOTE (tobyk @ Saturday 23rd June 2007 - 1:26am) *
You boys have got it easy I'm changing the TCAs and the entire anti roll bar at the same time! lol.gif


Thats what I've just done, its mental how much tighter my arb is now! My TRA's must have been shot!! well i had a bent caliper carrier as well so i reckon the car has come in to contact with a kerb at some point!!
I do love finding things out about a car when you pull it apart!!
Chris
tobyk
QUOTE (sooped_up_g @ Sunday 24th June 2007 - 5:41pm) *
i reckon the car has come in to contact with a kerb at some point!!


ninja.gif Why do you think I'm changing my TCAs and anti-roll bar lol.gif
uel_coupe_s
QUOTE (tobyk @ Sunday 24th June 2007 - 6:18pm) *
QUOTE (sooped_up_g @ Sunday 24th June 2007 - 5:41pm) *
i reckon the car has come in to contact with a kerb at some point!!


ninja.gif Why do you think I'm changing my TCAs and anti-roll bar lol.gif




whoops
adeg40
I've got mine the 'wrong' way round, fitting them like that was a piece of piss lol.gif
POLOMON
^^^^^^^ lol


and I'm dredding fitting mine now... ahhhhh lukin at it though it really dus luk easy! nod.gif paranoid.gif
sally_healey
QUOTE (POLOMON @ Tuesday 26th June 2007 - 8:23am) *
^^^^^^^ lol


and im dredding fitting mine now... ahhhhh lukin at it though it really dus luk easy! nod.gif paranoid.gif

It is, and that's coming from a GIRL lol.gif
DaveG40
Is anyone else painting these before fitting?

I've just been doing mine with a brush and hammerite smooth metal paint.

I've done the 2 plates, main 4 bolts and the circle clamp things - and will just proper grease all the bolts before fitting...

Do with think the doughnut ring bolts heads will need treating?

Dave
tobyk
I've painted mine with chrome effect paint because I'm a dick.
DaveG40
QUOTE (tobyk @ Saturday 30th June 2007 - 4:37pm) *
I've painted mine with chrome effect paint because I'm a dick.


lol - good effort...

It looks like i'll be leaving these to dry and then have to do a second coat so probably wont be going on until next weekend and the latest...
supercharged spaniel
i got all the bolts and plates zinc coated before fitting. cost me all of a tenner too. theyve been on since christmas and arnt rusty still.
tobyk
^ Sounds like a good plan. I just found a left over can of chrome effect paint from when I was building my bike and thought I'd use that. Zinc primer and then the paint.
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