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shut up harris... you know what i mean

Edited 4 June, 201214 yr by Matt G40

span the saxo twice at low speed, polo just twitches slightly but I've had a few moments when I know I should have been pulling myself out of a ditch.

Funniest was holding a full sideways out of a slip road onto a motorway with a traffic cop behind who also ended up doing a 360 when he hit the same diesel patch

There's quite a few reasons it happened. I'm now going to explain a few facts that won't be popular:

When you lower a car, you reduce suspension travel and the amount the car body car roll.

Body roll isn't neccessarily a bad thing. It has the benefit of letting the car's weight transfer off one wheel onto another, so where the car's body would have a degree of instability during a manoveur, some of this is absorbed by the suspension, meaning the tyres don't have to deal with all the forces involved.

Basically, this bodyroll means your cars handling is more progressive, ie it will tell you that something's wrong well before you hit the point of losing traction as it lets go gradually. Firmer suspension is far less progressive than standard suspension, in that it will grip the road for longer, while a normal car will be rolling about, but therefore will give you far less warning it's going to chuck you through a hedge.

Adjustable coilovers aren't really deisgned for road use, and wound down low is about where they'd be set for tarmac racing round a nice flat circuit out of uniformly grippy tarmac. Our road ain't that good.

Cheaper coilovers normally have a very high spring rate, especially for a light car like a Polo. You'll quite often find suppliers send out exactly the same spring rates for a Polo as for a Passat. This is why I find it a giggle watching people with Polos on cheap coilovers bounce down the road

Nangkangs aren't as bad as they used to be, but there's better out there. I don't rate them in slippery circumstaces, such as greasy roads (more on this later) If I were improving a car, the first thing I always splash some cash on is a good set of tyres. I personally like Avons. I used to love chucking my mk2 round a corner laughing at the body roll from it's standard suspension, but totally happy the tyres would pull the body round

If a road surface has had oil in it, then got wet and warmed up (pretty much what the weather's been doing most places for the last few days), it will pull the oil back out of the crevices in the road to the surface, pretty much what bikers mean when they describe a road surface as greasy.

Tie it all together, along with some of the more discreet points of car handling, and add a bit of bad luck and if you're lucky you end up sat arsebackwards on some bloke's drive wonderring what the fuck just happened there, been there once or twice myself for various reasons.

I span on a roundabout a month or so ago in the wet, to be fair I was being a idiot, I have been coaxing the lift off oversteer for a while now but that time it bit back and I caused a buckled wheel and blown tyre. It was a learning experience and cost me 120 to fix. expensive but it could have been a lot worse.

those with lowered cars may find it harder to bring the back end out as the weight transfer isn't as agressive as it is with my boggo roly poly suspension, so my car even with conti sportcontact2's will happily go sideways. haven't been doing it much lately.

Rwd is the best when it goes wrong. I caught some black ice on a round about at 40 in my minor. It twitched Abit, then Abit more, then went the full 720 up a curb and knocked a tyre clean off its rim. The amount of body roll made it feel extra crazy! Good job it was half 6 Sunday mornin so the roads were dead

I blame your spin on yeti

I blame your spin on yeti

Is this because everything is Yeti's fault?

:lol: :lol: :lol:

I'm the one who doesn't turn the forum off, so technically, yes :lol: :lol: :lol:

Sake yeti

The polo's are weird .. Really cant get much lift of steer at all.

I'm sure when i sort the rear out with a arb etc it will when wet but I've never drove a car which responds in such a way :S lol ..

RWD is a totaly different ball game, once it steps out you have to commit to the corner and steer into it and keep the pedel the same or just plant it and hook straight...Either way your going to have brown panties

Oh defiantly. Rwd is the man's way to power a car! It's soo Mich more exciting. I so nearly held it too. The lack of arb ment I was feelin Abit sea sick after LOL. I loved thrashing that thing round bends. Wicked oversteer and insane body roll. Makes for a unique ride.

My polo torque steers to the left slightly when I plant it, but your right. No matter what I do the back end just won't budge.

Just go into to hot, With loads of understeer and then plant your foot flat, should come out surely. If not E-brake :p

so it understeers more? have you ever driven a rwd car ?

Someone thinks their American : E-brake... Honestly

span the saxo twice at low speed, polo just twitches slightly but I've had a few moments when I know I should have been pulling myself out of a ditch.

Funniest was holding a full sideways out of a slip road onto a motorway with a traffic cop behind who also ended up doing a 360 when he hit the same diesel patch

Did you ever managed to speak to him, I feel a funny story lol

Oh defiantly. Rwd is the man's way to power a car! It's soo Mich more exciting. I so nearly held it too. The lack of arb ment I was feelin Abit sea sick after LOL. I loved thrashing that thing round bends. Wicked oversteer and insane body roll. Makes for a unique ride.

My polo torque steers to the left slightly when I plant it, but your right. No matter what I do the back end just won't budge.

You lot say this but you go that step further with the back end out don't care who you are the chances of catching it are slim if the backend really goes...

i would suggest that slammed cheap coilovers are more to blame than the nankangs, granted nankangs aren't the best tyres in the world, but i ran a set on my g40 whilst running good quality suspension and avoided stacking it. On the flip side i spun the car whilst running rock hard cheapo suspension on brand name baloon tyres. rock hard ride and low profile tyres can result in twichy handling in my experience

Damn straight! If I do ever get the back end out then ill be facing backwards! Something is like to avoid tbh.

getting the back end out is fun, if you are expecting it.

Mich

Do you have a HTC phone by any chance?

Going well

nicks so cool he gets the backend out on a straight road lol

If I was a 6n I would catapult myself into the first tree I could find too.

Hahahahahahaha yes guy!

It'd clearly just had enough of corroding away

Eric thanks for using my real name babe

harris, its cool babes

Kkkkk

If I was a 6n I would catapult myself into the first tree I could find too.

Oh my word