hi mate love the car, how much work was involved in dropping the g40 in?

dav I'm hoping for 150+ as that would be double what was in there originally with the 1600 and the silver dials are an optional extra although they have now gone to make way for late mk3 golf 160mph dials

p20 dub cheers craig just need to pull my finger out now and sort a few things and get the paintwork done

jas 106 the drivers side front engine mount was fabricated from scratch and to keep the other mounts i had the g40 geerbox internals put into the original casing plus all the wiring.

found a few more pics too and put them in the 1st post

luke

seriously kool car, what was involved wiring wise?

mike

Very nice and clean and the wheels suite it very well nice job :-)

Well after about 6months of not doing much to my 6n g40 i decided i need to get back on it.Heres my other thread if your interested in the build up till now http://www.clubpolo.co.uk/forum/index.php?showtopic=38208 and the engine was removed as i wasnt totaly happy with the overall finish

been doing a little work on the 6n g40s bay wanted it to be smoother and cleaner without the going over the top.so i removed all the factory sealer an resealed the seams neatly and welded an smoothed a few holes just to tidy the hole thing up a little

got it all masked up this morning ready for a couple of coats of 2k primer

all primed should be back in green by the end of the weekend

cheers

luke

Edited 28 March, 201115 yr by ahh claudia

Some good looking work there Liking the newspaper choices too lol

is it me or is that filler over the chassi number ? or is chassi number not were i think it is ?

I have no idea why someone would want to put a G40 engine into a 6n but hats off to your dedication and passion for it

cheers jack

dabbsy the chassis number on a 6n is inside the scuttle panel if you look at the 1st 2 pics you can just see it on the right hand side

luke

I have no idea why someone would want to put a G40 engine into a 6n but hats off to your dedication and passion for it

a few people have said this but when you look at the fact 100bhp 16v is the biggest engine you can get standard then a g40 running 150/160bhp is a good way to go.My main reason was i dont like mk3s I've had 5 g40s as i love the engine but mk3s cant handle that power and i like the drive/handling of a 6n which is by far better than any mk3 even in standard form.i also had a rotten g40 sat around with a good engine and a slow 1.6 mk4 seamed perfect to me.mk4s do have the extra weight but also means it can put the power down better than a mk3 with similar spec its not as raw but more refined in my eyes and for what i was after it was a really good compromise

cheers

luke

I understand why you want the engine Your 6n looked sweet before and you've trashed it to put a G40 engine in it, just don't get it, sorry

I dunno what it is and don't think I'm being a bitch when I say this Luke... But if I as at a show and I saw a 6n with a G40 engine in it, me and most people I know would just turn up their lip up, go urgh and walk on... See a original G40 and I'd be stopping to grind it haha. Each to their own though I guess, but again I'm liking your dedication

i also had a rotten g40 sat around with a good engine and a slow 1.6 mk4 seamed perfect to me.

I'll let you off then, you saved a dying G40

mk4s do have the extra weight but also means it can put the power down better than a mk3 with similar spec its not as raw but more refined in my eyes and for what i was after it was a really good compromise

Wouldn't you lose bhp because of the weight?

You should have saved the G40 and got another shell and put a 20VT into the 6n tbh

Edited 2 January, 200917 yr by D16RRT

youll lose speed not bhp, the bhp/weight will be different, but the actual bhp of the engine wont change,

btw, I'm really liking the car, looks really smart. keep us posted

Edited 2 January, 200917 yr by chrisbin

Wouldn't you lose bhp because of the weight?

You should have saved the G40 and got another shell and put a 20VT into the 6n tbh

You won't lose any horses just because the 6N shell is heavier. You will affect the power-to-weight ratio yes (if directly comparing an identically-specced mk3 G40 and a 6N G40). To compensate, just tune the G40 lump up a touch more, or remove unnecessary weight from the 6N!

Have you seen the cost of a 20vT conversion? I'm sure the G40 conversion is cheaper, and its power output far better suits the front-wheel-drive 6N chassis. Why have 280bhp if you can't use it? :-)

Cheers

You won't lose any horses just because the 6N shell is heavier.

OK wasn't sure, but with the extra weight you'd be losing speed so would it be worth it?

I wouldn't know, that's why I ask these questions I don't have the knowledge

Anyone know?

Have you seen the cost of a 20vT conversion? I'm sure the G40 conversion is cheaper, and its power output far better suits the front-wheel-drive 6N chassis. Why have 280bhp if you can't use it? :-)

I'm sure it is cheaper haha especially as he had the G40 engine already, but not many people have got it and I know which I'd prefer!

I'd use that bhp, 20VT smiles... Then move on to bigger and better!

tbh it doesnt make a huge difference its mainly the acceleration the 6n isnt as savage as a mk3 it puts the power down cleaner if you get me but some of that will be running 15s.I totaly see your point though as with anything it has its advantages and disadvantages.Also if the donor was a solid car i would have saved it but standard looking mk3s arent my thing i like to build what i want which tbh i cant see that I've trashed it

cheers

luke

lol at the boobie news paper

great progress dude

lol yeh was the star cheepest paper in the shop this morning and cheers mate

luke

liking this project mate hope to do summat similar, you have pm

I have no idea why someone would want to put a G40 engine into a 6n but hats off to your dedication and passion for it

For that exact reason.... Its different!

Fairplay mate tidy work

liking this project mate hope to do summat similar, you have pm

cheers ill reply to your pm in a bit

I have no idea why someone would want to put a G40 engine into a 6n but hats off to your dedication and passion for it

For that exact reason.... Its different!

Fairplay mate tidy work

cheers its what i wanted thats why I'm doing it

will be an update tommorow been a wee bit busy the last week.The bay is painted and I'm slowly assembling all the nice new shiny bits

luke

if your really quick bud you might just finish it in time for the oxford vw meet!

looks like your finally getting somewhere with it! you moved house yet?

Edited 2 April, 200917 yr by g40jon

nice one Luke nice to see it back on the go. As you know I'm a right original g40 whore but i can totally understand this..even a g40 with the same power as this 6n g40 conversion, yes more weight in the 6n but end of the day with a better handling car the 6n will kill the mk3 g40 setup. Something people often overlook is the handling of a car and think power power power...g40's in a mk3 are not too clever without spending a bomb. My g40 even with its suspension upgrades is severly comprimised by the bad handling and brakes...defo a good move i think id be quite happy with something like this myself...never gonna do it though as i love mk3's but what you have done...does make sense when you actually know what your on about....

sad to see some of the flock have left, but its good that your back on the go again! will be sweet when its back ont road.

did you remove all the nothes and random holes from the bay or just the ones on the scuttle panel/firewall lip thing and the studs on the tops of the turrets? do they actually serve a purpose

if your really quick bud you might just finish it in time for the oxford vw meet!

looks like your finally getting somewhere with it! you moved house yet?

yeh i probably could mate but i want to do alot more to it before i put it bk on the road.Havnt moved in yet was a few probs paperwork wise but should be in in a few weeks

nice one Luke nice to see it back on the go. As you know I'm a right original g40 whore but i can totally understand this..even a g40 with the same power as this 6n g40 conversion, yes more weight in the 6n but end of the day with a better handling car the 6n will kill the mk3 g40 setup. Something people often overlook is the handling of a car and think power power power...g40's in a mk3 are not too clever without spending a bomb. My g40 even with its suspension upgrades is severly comprimised by the bad handling and brakes...defo a good move i think id be quite happy with something like this myself...never gonna do it though as i love mk3's but what you have done...does make sense when you actually know what your on about....

cheers dan it would actually be nice to use it though lol ill get there in the end the weight does restrict it a little but i prefere going round corners than straight lines so it suits me perfectly

sad to see some of the flock have left, but its good that your back on the go again! will be sweet when its back ont road.

did you remove all the nothes and random holes from the bay or just the ones on the scuttle panel/firewall lip thing and the studs on the tops of the turrets? do they actually serve a purpose

cheers saf yeh it is a we bit sad that I've thinned them out but the comet blue is staying now got a house with a drive big enough lol

i havnt removed all the holes just a little tidy up.Was going to completely smooth it all but then to put everything back in the bay would have looked odd so I've left a few bits to leave a bit o character if that makes sense

right piccy time

things done

bay resprayed

new subframe which has been powdercoated

new bottom arms also powder coated

new steering rack

new track rods

new track rod ends

lots more to come just waiting on parts which has been a real pain as I've had the wrong bits delivered

luke

Great project mate, very inspiring, will look sweet when it's finished :)

So what's needed for the conversion?

Is it pretty much plug and play minus the wiring etc??

I'd have paid my car off by August next year (after 2 years ownership) and i reckon I'm gonna want to keep it as much as get something new, so an enigne swap would be the only thing left by the time i could insure it.. and I've always wanted a G40 :)