-80 isn't low enough...are you wise? Don't be a pikey...raise the rears.

Got any pics of your car, what sort of wheels/tyres are you running?

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A 'cut spring' is just like a normal spring... but shorter and slightly stiffer!

The reason the guys car was bouncing all over the place was because the shocks had died due to either not being able to cope with the extra stiffness or bottoming out, its unlikely it was because of the cut springs. You put on too short/hard a spring, even if it hasnt been cut, and you will have the same problem.

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done the springs. gonna look at the issue with the steering arms in the morning. car is now lowered approximately 80mm at the rear and around 110mm at the front and sits level which is all i was after. car is on 14 inch pirelli P-slots and 185/50R14 tires. cheers for all the advice fellas. and to the haters, been nice knowing you. just in case i die from my coil cutting extravegansies. lol

Cut springs = certain death.

FACT.

i guess this guy has 1st hand exsperience an is posting from the next level..

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Cut springs = certain death.

FACT.

i guess this guy has 1st hand exsperience an is posting from the next level..

I guess this guy was being a bit sarcastic

Cut springs are NOT stiffer - on the contrary,they are softer.

How can you stiffen a spring by removing part of it? The part left is the same strength as it was before,but the entire spring has less strength than before,due to part of the spring being removed.

A cut spring actually puts less stress on a damper,not more - and does not cause bouncing. That is just worn dampers.

The problems with cut springs are that you lower the car whilst also reducing the resistance - serving more likelihood to 'bottoming-out' (hitting ground),and mainly,that the spring can become too short to sit pre-compressed in its seat,as it should be to be safe/secure.

Another problem is 'diving' caused by the front spring rate no longer being matched to the rear,being softer instead. And you can also expect more understeer,due to the reduced push of the tyre tread onto the ground with the reduced rate.

But a cut spring does not increase bounce - if anything,its reduced.

Cut springs = certain death.

FACT.

it's true. i suffered a fatality myself doing the very thing. TWICE!

Cut springs are NOT stiffer - on the contrary,they are softer.

How can you stiffen a spring by removing part of it? The part left is the same strength as it was before,but the entire spring has less strength than before,due to part of the spring being removed.

A cut spring actually puts less stress on a damper,not more - and does not cause bouncing. That is just worn dampers.

The problems with cut springs are that you lower the car whilst also reducing the resistance - serving more likelihood to 'bottoming-out' (hitting ground),and mainly,that the spring can become too short to sit pre-compressed in its seat,as it should be to be safe/secure.

Another problem is 'diving' caused by the front spring rate no longer being matched to the rear,being softer instead. And you can also expect more understeer,due to the reduced push of the tyre tread onto the ground with the reduced rate.

But a cut spring does not increase bounce - if anything,its reduced.

I've done the experiments, its A level physics. Think of a coil spring as a set of levers and a torsion bar.

Conventional torsion bars work by having a lever twisting a steel bar, whereas in a coil spring the lever and bar are one object. Each coil acts to twist the next coil and so on, so its like one big lever. Less coils, less levers. More coils, more levers.

Then theres the metal bar part. Take a long piece of angle iron and twist it. Shouldn't be too hard to get it to move a bit. Then take a short (few cms) piece and try again....

Theres a few ways to make a spring stiffer: reduce the number of coils, increase the overall diameter and increase the diameter of the bar used.

It's all to do with moments etc.

I can see why you think it would be softer, but once you think about it properly it makes sense.

Kam/Heartagram? any advice........please?

Mmmm i was going to have mine cut but have been advised by Saf -Grunideg and Karl-Cl Coupe that it wouldnt be safe.Spring and shock sets are prety cheap though . I'm going to have to invest in a set next month . Unfortinatly I'm skint at the mo.

you got me wrong, i do think they are unsafe if attempted by pikey fuckers like myself who dont have the foggiest what we are doing, and i would rather you didnt drive around in a car that i had cut springs on. for the cost of a philj i personally dont think its worth it, but if you have a car youve spent say 50 quid on, by spent 150 on suspension when you could cut a spring or two.

however id only get it done by someone who had done it previosly like rickpolo or kam, but that said, ill never cut springs on a car not my cup of tea when safer tuv approved gear is readily available

add say cut the spings enyway an if you dount like how they are then get some proper ones what you got to loose worth a try

a mean my mate even cut the spring too much and the springs fell out so he left them out on a corsa and he is still going with non in now

a mean my mate even cut the spring too much and the springs fell out so he left them out on a corsa and he is still going with non in now

Why are you dragging up this old thread?

And that sounds pretty safe

Kam/Heartagram? any advice........please?

Mmmm i was going to have mine cut but have been advised by Saf -Grunideg and Karl-Cl Coupe that it wouldnt be safe.Spring and shock sets are prety cheap though . I'm going to have to invest in a set next month . Unfortinatly I'm skint at the mo.

you got me wrong, i do think they are unsafe if attempted by pikey fuckers like myself who dont have the foggiest what we are doing, and i would rather you didnt drive around in a car that i had cut springs on. for the cost of a philj i personally dont think its worth it, but if you have a car youve spent say 50 quid on, by spent 150 on suspension when you could cut a spring or two.

however id only get it done by someone who had done it previosly like rickpolo or kam, but that said, ill never cut springs on a car not my cup of tea when safer tuv approved gear is readily available

If I got a philJ kit I'd probably chop a coil out of the front cause they never seem to sit low enough on the front and to low on the back. So need to even it out a bit.

Don't trust me to do anything, its not worth risking your life

hahahaha i would totally cut springs now cos I'm skint as fuck, well id take it to my mate rick as hes an engineer so he will pimp it right out for me