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That would be awsome Saf :-)

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  • grungeisdead
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    chris with a mk1 golf afh engine with an 8p box fitted a mk4 fly and mk3 clutch with mk4 starter as its slimmer, the mk4 flywheel wouldnt engage so he had to take it apart again and fit a mk3 fly! g

185/50/14's are about 60-70 each...............just sold Dom some cheapy....you should of said..or I should have read!!!

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YAY! £280 on tyres! Fun fun! Least I dont have to worry about that for a while as its sat on axel stands until the subframe arrives in a few weeks :-)

Then my new bearing'd, polybushed tca's, 60/60 kit, VW11 brakes can all go back on

Oh yeh, whilst I'm on... to all those who said you cant get a seperate rockercover gasket for the AFH engine...

Whats this then?

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Yeh i dont understand how people said this. I went to my bro's work the other day (he's an audi mechanic) and ordered a gasket and new rocker cover bolts. Picked it up today and just need to fit it. :)

Keep up the good work mate. :)

Kuszpit :)

fantabulous! i can now go and buy the seal and stop the oil dripping down the front of my engine.

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if i could emmulate this i would be a happy man! :-)

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Cheers man, should be a bit more progress shortly

Cheers man, should be a bit more progress shortly

Yay :D

Keep up the good work big man 8-)

i got my dunlop 185/50's off my dads mate who owns a tyre shop. brought them back from germany, puncture repaired practically new. £10 each :thumbsup:

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Subframe arrived today!! Minor issues to sort out but i'll explain that in a bit.

Massive massive thankyou to Stuart Norman of Polo Performance Services

Over the summer he has taken some time out so spend with his family,

thankfully he had just enough parts and time to make one by hand especially for me :-D

There are some photos of the building of it to come but for now i'll let the pics do the talking!

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Right problem being, because this isnt a standard mk3 engine the subframe fouls the bottom of the sump

The AFH sump is approx 170mm deep where as the original mk3 1.3 sump was only 130mm

So you end up with this...

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However I believe this can be cured by fitting a mk3 sump to the AFH engine.

Just need to know if the oil pick up needs modifying in any way and whether i can use a mk3 gasket because the AFH doesnt have a sump gasket!

Truely a day of ups and downs!

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if the mk3 sumps you can use a mk3 gasket, i think they are cork tho, which are poo and will invariably leak. I've hylomard a sump before as it hasnt leaked to date

subframe looks good dude, just another wee minor thing and itll be all bolted up and the car back on 4 wheels again =D

come to think of it, rick (humer) had the same thing happen but with the standard arb, so to drop the arb, he used a piece of box section between the mounts on the body and the mounts for the arb.

id drop him a pm fella

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Yeh Heg123 used a mk3 sump although i think that was purely because he had a nice new shiny one lying around! (thankyou to pinches for pointing this out)

Looks awesome dude!

Want one for mine now :lol:

Absolutely fantastic!

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Cheers guys, it will be fantastic if i can sort this minor issue out! Having a mild panic again this morning because mikey doesnt recon a mk3 sump will fit the AFH block :cry::?

That looks top notch!!!! :)

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Where can i get a dry sump system from then people.... lol

Is that a positive that the Mk3 Sump wont fit?

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haven't tried yet, I'm hoping it does because in heg's thread it deffinitly is a mk3 sump. But I'm just sounding out my options, dry sump or the cheaper alternative of having the AFH sump cut down and re-welded.

Arent you glad I'm finding all these problems, at least now if you buy a subframe you will know what do to make it fit!

if the mk3 sump dont fit then u could just make a cut out into the mk4 sump and reweld it. not to much hassle really.

This is a fantastic project btw and well done so far!

KiZ

Cheers guys, it will be fantastic if i can sort this minor issue out! Having a mild panic again this morning because mikey doesnt recon a mk3 sump will fit the AFH block :cry::?

Have a look and a play with the oil pumps ;)

taken from Hywels thread

"ye I used the 3f sump as the one on the afh was dented and this was a nice new one"

so obviously, it does fit.

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Firstly, got new bearings and polybushes in

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So now i can get on with re-building the suspension assembly at the weekend

Let me know when you're doing it, I'll pop over and help if I can :-D

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Right, the sump fiasco!

Drained the oil (mostly on the parents patio) and whipped the mk3 sump off to see what was going on

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As you can see its quite a shallow pick up and pipe thing (excuse the failure of proper terms)

Next up was the mk4 AFH sump

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This is a much deeper oil pick up and pipe thing (obviously needs to be because of the deeper sump

So i then pinched the oil pick up thingy from the mk3 engine

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And fitted to the AFH

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trouble is the pipe is too long so i struck a line from level with the oil pick up thing and marked 5mm increments

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Hack-sawd these off one by one offering up the sump each time to so that i didnt cut off too much

And it fits!

Couple of issues:

Little bit worried about how close the edge of the sump gets to the flywheel

(the mk4 AFH sump has a cut out here)

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19 of the 20 bolts that hold the sump on fit perfectly, however for some reason this one doesnt so i'll widen it out a little

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So there we go, all fitted (fingers crossed)

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and thennn.....

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