Totally agree. First thing I bought was my Haynes manual because I wanted the independence of doing jobs on my own car.

I just love getting stuck in with it anyway and have learned GREATLY as I've gone along. I've got to the stage where I change my own timing belts etc...albeit that I drop my engine down on 2 jacks and a few rocks...but it still worked haha.

End of the day, I see no excuse not to purchase a Haynes manual unless you know fully what you are doing and/or are willing to get stuck in and do it yourself first.

Exactly. I did a whole engine and box transplant last year, with only the book and my own head. As well as lowering suspension, which practically includes the brakes too. As well as full strip of the interior, wiring a pretty big ICE setup, and changing all sorts of small things, and sorting out lots of little problems, incuding timing, choke etc. All with a book and my dads help (minmal i might add! ). I cant stress how much i learnt. I think if i had just asked on here, i may have done it quicker, but i dont think it would have been so educational.

H&S

I'm an IT Student at Uni, so there are many ways that i could find stuff out about cars on the internet, but the first thing i went and did, before i even got my wheels balanced, was get a haynes manual, I've learnt alot from using that and just fault finding etc, i mean come on, if you can afford to spend some cash on your car, seriously buy a haynes manual.

Like it was said before, they dont cover absolutely every aspect of your car, but they cover most of it.

so stop being cheap and buy one! 15 quid, and it could save you a massive bill from a garage or save some poor person on this forum explaining for the millionth time on how to do something!

to be fair in recent years haynes manuals are shite, get one for a mk2 golf and one for a mk3 - the mk3 one is crap and a third thinner than the mk2 manual for pretty much the same car!

iv got an older mk2 one which is green, and a later one which is red, the earlier one is atleast a 1/8 thicker

Edited 1 July, 200917 yr by xcore

I suppose people will use it for different reasons, but to me it seems lazy. And in that answer you have said its easier to use a book. Like i said, its the simple things that are covered in a book. I personally see it as further reliance on other people, the internet and technology in general. Just call e a dinosaur

H&S

tbf tho i'm one of these that just gets the spanners out and gets stuck in, its mostly modifications that i use forums to ask questions about because there not always as obvious as replacing like for like. i'm not saying Haynes manuals are a bad thing (as i've never used one lol) but they won't tell you the problems you might encounter when putting a 16v in a sciroccco (for example).

and it's very rare i replace like for like so a Haynes probably wouldn't be much good for me.

I suppose people will use it for different reasons, but to me it seems lazy. And in that answer you have said its easier to use a book. Like i said, its the simple things that are covered in a book. I personally see it as further reliance on other people, the internet and technology in general. Just call e a dinosaur

H&S

tbf tho i'm one of these that just gets the spanners out and gets stuck in, its mostly modifications that i use forums to ask questions about because there not always as obvious as replacing like for like. i'm not saying Haynes manuals are a bad thing (as i've never used one lol) but they won't tell you the problems you might encounter when putting a 16v in a sciroccco (for example).

and it's very rare i replace like for like so a Haynes probably wouldn't be much good for me.

Evening sir.

I completely agree with McLovin on this one, though I do tend to get the Haynes (on the cheap from Auto-Jumbles), just as a reference guide if I'm doing something I've not done before.

To add to this, even the absolute novice can learn quickly, there's no better practice than getting your hands dirty and having a go. I knew fuck all about cars up until I started driving, and took on my conversion with very little experience, a manual for reference, a registration on ETKA, and , most importantly, a big dollop of common sense.

If all else fails, the internet, forums and questions to a mechanic will always be of help, I'm sure most people on here know of one who'll be willing to give advice for free.

Just to say to the people saying Hanes manuals cost too much, I picked up one for a mk2 for £1 at a classic car show.

Howver,m using the forums is better because you're talking to people who have experience and who may have had the same problems you're having, therefore sorting your problem in quicker time than finding the right bit in the manual, working it out, and then doing it.

I completely agree with McLovin on this one,

finally some thing we agree on

Edited 4 July, 200917 yr by McLOVIN

Makes a nice change doesn't it?!

this may seem like a really daft question, but i cant seem to find a haynes manual anywhere for the 6n2 tdi. can anyone help me with a link by any chance??

i hate to break it to you prankstar, but you are a hypocrit, you tell people to buy haynes books instead of asking endless questions when you yourself have posted thread after thread asking about tuning your car, there is an absolute forrest of performance tuning books out there, not to mention alot of what you asked will have been covered before (re: bikecarbs). this book is a prime example of what you could have read.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Four-stroke-Perfor...l/dp/1859604358

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Forced-Induction-P.../ref=pd_sim_b_1

i dont think this thread was really necessary.

I don't think it's hypocritical, you can read up on bike carbs and engine tuning etc. - but as for finding out which mods fit most easily, what the results were like and such the forums are great.

I've got 2 Haynes manuals for each of my cars - one copy for reading on the bog before a job, and an oily copy for the garage! Admittedly the Polo one only really gets used for torque figures, but it still gets used.

i bought one and avent even looked at it,only the pictyres in the front

I think the main point of this topic was for people who ask questions like..

"What oil do i need for my car?"

"Which of the two oil sensors is for low pressure?"

"What are the torque settings for head bolts on a 1.0 6n?"

"Which way around do the HT leads go in the dizzy cap?"

"What bits do i need for a MK2 ignition set-up?"

"What relay is for intermittent wipers?"

Etc,etc,etc - and all this info is at the flick of a page in the Haynes manual. Simples.

I have four different Haynes manuals for my hybrid Polo,and have used the '03 Golf/Bora book a few times for help (wiring colours and measurement specifications),the MK2 for most original things,the facelift one for spec reference,and the 6n one for some AEE references.

They've made my life alot easier.

i would love to get hold of a haynes for my car! I've looked but i cannot find. 6n2 they have, but not for a diesel. anybody know if it exists?

i hate to break it to you prankstar, but you are a hypocrit, you tell people to buy haynes books instead of asking endless questions when you yourself have posted thread after thread asking about tuning your car, there is an absolute forrest of performance tuning books out there, not to mention alot of what you asked will have been covered before (re: bikecarbs). this book is a prime example of what you could have read.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Four-stroke-Perfor...l/dp/1859604358

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Forced-Induction-P.../ref=pd_sim_b_1

i dont think this thread was really necessary.

Oh man, what a twazzer reply.

Reference the Diesel mk5 manual- the Haynes website doesnt have one so i think you are out of luck. Maybe you could get away with a mk4 golf diesel and a mk5 polo petrol manual. should cover most things?

Edited 7 July, 200917 yr by ben_reza

Isn't the 6n2 diesel a 1.4 turbo? 1422cc,anyway. With the Golf a 1.9 turbo? I have the later MK4 Golf book (blue one,there's also a red one for earlier MK4 Golfs) and i dont think this one will be any use.

The Golf totally gets preferential treatment from nearly everyone,doesn't it?

i know that they do a petrol 6n2 manual, do you think this would be ok for any bodywork maintainence. i know its no good for engine, but everything else?

yeah forget what i said about the golf.

@ saf...

OIZ!

wht seats cn i fit to mi 6n? can i run bare 18's? do these lexus lights luk gd? whi iz ma insurnce 1600 quid?

safe innit.

I don't think it's hypocritical, you can read up on bike carbs and engine tuning etc. - but as for finding out which mods fit most easily, what the results were like and such the forums are great.

I've got 2 Haynes manuals for each of my cars - one copy for reading on the bog before a job, and an oily copy for the garage! Admittedly the Polo one only really gets used for torque figures, but it still gets used.

hahaha - no wonder i get an oily arse so much of the time... I only have one copy.

Is that why new versions of Haynes manuals seem to be made out of shitwrap?

I've always bought Haynes manuals new. Bought an old one for the mk2 on e-bay and couldn't believe the quality of the paper. Covered in oil now though unlike my arse.

I use mine on a regualr basis even built my first engine in the shed with one

and agree with Giw the quailty of the old one are brillent left one in the rain dried it out still useable, german quailty not just for cars but books aswell!!!

i saw a new haynes manual for the 6n for £19.99 I'm thinking about buying it, is there anywere cheaper to get it from?

i saw a new haynes manual for the 6n for £19.99 I'm thinking about buying it, is there anywere cheaper to get it from?

look on e-bay matey theres normaly some on there

oh yes good old haynes manuals i've got about 250 of them and still counting lol

Edited 9 July, 200917 yr by vw-nutter