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I have just bought myself a stealth shelp and some vibe black air 6x9s which are 525watt wired them into the aduio system i was running, which was:

12inch pioneer sub 1400watt

kenwood 350 watt amp,

The amp handled the sub nicely and it produced some good power, but with the edition of the 6x9s it is a load of crap. So i was wondering if someone could tell me a amp that i can buy that will run the whole system on, or a good amp that will be able to handle the power of the sub and i run my orignal amp just with the 6x9s.

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or if someone cold tell me te best way get over my problem that would also be great.

the best thing to do would be to buy another amp thats what i had to do not to sure what size.

my 6x9s are 350w and my amp for them is 450w and they work fine if thats any help

sean

coulnt u try running the 6x9s of the headunit and have the amp just for sub .. thats if theres nuff ports in the back of you are unit ?

Above answer would be cheapest

Although 6x9's are pretty useless in audio :/ (depends what type your after)

Id try running them from the HU to test

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With running a amp for the sub and a amp for the 6x9s, would the 6x9s still over power the sub in the bass of the tunes,

Do i have to connect both of the amps togeather, to get them to work.

I am not sure how many ports i have at the back of the head unit, i will have check the spec.

thanks for your help so far people.

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Id definately test that the 6x9's work, by putting them into you Headunit,

6x9's need to be good quality to make a difference through a amp, and its not really worth the hassle of doing

Id personally wire the 6x9's along one side of your car along with the Amp RCA's and Remote Cables

and then into the headunit (rear speaker terminals)

The sub will then work as it did before!

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Id definately test that the 6x9's work, by putting them into you Headunit,

6x9's need to be good quality to make a difference through a amp, and its not really worth the hassle of doing

Id personally wire the 6x9's along one side of your car along with the Amp RCA's and Remote Cables

and then into the headunit (rear speaker terminals)

The sub will then work as it did before!

ok that all sounds good mate, but could you tell me what the Amp RCA's and Remote Cables are as you lost me there.

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Id definately test that the 6x9's work, by putting them into you Headunit,

6x9's need to be good quality to make a difference through a amp, and its not really worth the hassle of doing

Id personally wire the 6x9's along one side of your car along with the Amp RCA's and Remote Cables

and then into the headunit (rear speaker terminals)

The sub will then work as it did before!

ok that all sounds good mate, but could you tell me what the Amp RCA's and Remote Cables are as you lost me there.

So i just got to wire the 6x9s into the back off the HU. and amp rca's and remote cables are already what i have run down the side of the car.

Basically.

These are Phone Cables (also known as RCA's)

stereo_phono_cable.jpg

The remote cable is the one that fits into the amp inbetween the Power and Earth (also known as (12v+ and Ground (GND)) more commonly a thin BLUE cable.

So long as your headunit has 2 sets (Phono/RCA outputs) outputs at the back of the headunit you could run them via a seperate amplifier without any issues. If it only has a singular output that your currently using for the Sub then you could split this using a Phone splitter to run to a seperate amp.

You could run the 6x9s off the Headunit by connecting them to the Green and Purple wires. (these are the rear speaker output) If your already running rear speakers off the headunit, wherever they may be, these would have to be disconnected as the 6x9's would replace these.

If your not up to doing such a job yourself, id STRONGLY sudjest you take it to a local car audio shop (not halfords) for them to do it for you. It will be done properly and you'll (hopefully) get some good advice too.

Steve

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Basically.

These are Phone Cables (also known as RCA's)

stereo_phono_cable.jpg

The remote cable is the one that fits into the amp inbetween the Power and Earth (also known as (12v+ and Ground (GND)) more commonly a thin BLUE cable.

So long as your headunit has 2 sets (Phono/RCA outputs) outputs at the back of the headunit you could run them via a seperate amplifier without any issues. If it only has a singular output that your currently using for the Sub then you could split this using a Phone splitter to run to a seperate amp.

You could run the 6x9s off the Headunit by connecting them to the Green and Purple wires. (these are the rear speaker output) If your already running rear speakers off the headunit, wherever they may be, these would have to be disconnected as the 6x9's would replace these.

If your not up to doing such a job yourself, id STRONGLY sudjest you take it to a local car audio shop (not halfords) for them to do it for you. It will be done properly and you'll (hopefully) get some good advice too.

Steve

okay thanks mate, yeah i have thse cables in my car, i had a bit of a memory lost and could not reamber what the cables look like or were. lol

from looking at the back of my drawing of my head unit i have 1 set of rca outputs,

so i was going to wire the 6x9s into the green and purple, i have no rear speakers so the 6x9s should just fit right in is that correct,

but if that does'nt sound any good then i will split and buy another amp.

thanks for your help and advice mate.

Ben

Ok on your amp youll have your speaker terminals

Then Power and Ground

Next will be RCA which is what is pictured above

And finally is the Remote (this powers the amp on and off with your headunit

What amp is it you have, any pictures of these above ? (ill label then)

And also what headunit (if its anything like what mine was, i had to do abit of fiddleing)

II you can supply these, we can get you sorted ASAP

Also, when wiring the 6x9's into the green and pruple wires, get some terminal blocks, this will give best connection as possible

dont just cut, twist and tape

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Ok on your amp youll have your speaker terminals

Then Power and Ground

Next will be RCA which is what is pictured above

And finally is the Remote (this powers the amp on and off with your headunit

What amp is it you have, any pictures of these above ? (ill label then)

And also what headunit (if its anything like what mine was, i had to do abit of fiddleing)

II you can supply these, we can get you sorted ASAP

My head unit is Sony xpolod, cdx-gt424u,

Kenwood 350 watt amp, kac-5204 2 channel

Thanks

Your in a bit of a situation where you have limited choice in what to do.

Your headunit only has one pre-out, what the RCAs connect to the amp.

You can split this and use the single output from the HU to give the same signal to each amp. (this isnt the best thing to do but it will work.)

You cant run both the 6x9's and the sub of that single amp as it isnt designed to do that. Either Sub OR 6X9s. So if you want to amp the 6x9s your got to get a new amp. Also a RCA (phono) splitter for the RCA cables. Plus a new amp wiring kit.

Or the most simple way(and hell of a lot cheaper) is to run a set of speaker wires down the car and connect them to the headunit (at the green and purple wires) and leave the sub amp'd and the rest of the system as it is.

any more questions? :p

Steve

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Your in a bit of a situation where you have limited choice in what to do.

Your headunit only has one pre-out, what the RCAs connect to the amp.

You can split this and use the single output from the HU to give the same signal to each amp. (this isnt the best thing to do but it will work.)

You cant run both the 6x9's and the sub of that single amp as it isnt designed to do that. Either Sub OR 6X9s. So if you want to amp the 6x9s your got to get a new amp. Also a RCA (phono) splitter for the RCA cables. Plus a new amp wiring kit.

Or the most simple way(and hell of a lot cheaper) is to run a set of speaker wires down the car and connect them to the headunit (at the green and purple wires) and leave the sub amp'd and the rest of the system as it is.

any more questions? :p

Steve

Hi steve,

Is this the RCA splitter you where talking about mate?

Vibe FLAT Y 2M RCA Phono Amp Leads - 2 Male to 1 Female

Thank Ben

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Your in a bit of a situation where you have limited choice in what to do.

Your headunit only has one pre-out, what the RCAs connect to the amp.

You can split this and use the single output from the HU to give the same signal to each amp. (this isnt the best thing to do but it will work.)

You cant run both the 6x9's and the sub of that single amp as it isnt designed to do that. Either Sub OR 6X9s. So if you want to amp the 6x9s your got to get a new amp. Also a RCA (phono) splitter for the RCA cables. Plus a new amp wiring kit.

Or the most simple way(and hell of a lot cheaper) is to run a set of speaker wires down the car and connect them to the headunit (at the green and purple wires) and leave the sub amp'd and the rest of the system as it is.

any more questions? :p

Steve

hi steve, i need tp pick your brians if that is okay.

Hi. I have a 2001 polo but i have a problem can you help me please.

I wired up my 6x9s to the green and purple wire's at the back of the H/U, i drove down the road and they where fine but when i was on my way back the cd player just went dead, the fuse i have from the battery forthe sub blow. checked the other fuses on the radio, main fuse and the amp, they are all fine.

Any help would be great.

Thanks for reading

Ben

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Also, when wiring the 6x9's into the green and pruple wires, get some terminal blocks, this will give best connection as possible

dont just cut, twist and tape

Hi Steve, i need tp pick your brians if that is okay.

I wired up my 6x9s to the green and purple wire's at the back of the H/U, i drove down the road and they where fine but when i was on my way back the cd player just went dead, the fuse i have from the battery forthe sub blow. checked the other fuses on the radio, main fuse and the amp, they are all fine.

Any help would be great.

Thanks for reading

Ben

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