Pootling along at a slow speed cause theres lots of snow on the roads and its slippery as hell. Generally not using the brakes to harshly and slowing down using the gears as you do. Some woman, typical, decides that the give way does not apply to her and tries to pull out then realises she can't and slams her brakes on. Which is obviously a great idea in the snow. I manage to miss her but put my own car up a big old kerb and into a hedge. I pull over a bit further up to inspect the damage and the stupid bint has fucked off instead of pulling over. I wish I had slammed into the side of her car now. I don't understand why people think driving in the snow and ice is the same as in normal condition.

If you walk you know you have to be more careful because you might slip. But for some reason people dont' seem to understand that concept once they've got down there icy pavement and into there car. Baffels me when there is a bucket load of snow on the road and people just keep driving as the would normally oblivious to the fact that if they have to stop they quite simply aren't going to. I'm just glad I didn't have the 13s on or else the whole bumper/wheel/sill would have been fucked cause it wasn't exactly a shallow kerb.

BEWARE OF THE IDIOTS!

i also found one of these twats last week, driving along the motorway at night with the left over snow frmo the few days previous. and started to hail, like golf balls, thought they was going to smash through my windscreen, could only see like a few feet infront of the car, so everyone slows down to around 25 wich i still thought was a bit speedy.. then some prick, oblivious any of this was gonig on, hooning it past us at 60??!! i couldnt believe my eyes. a shame i didnt see him planted in a ditch later down the road, maybe he saw sense and realised his driving didnt exactly match the conditions.. must have slowed down.

haha yeah I've encountered the same too. Plus I think that if you are driving around in a big 4x4 with knobbly tyres then it might be a good idea to give way to people in normal cars who probably can't stop when you pull out in front of them.

And apparently, a transit van is the best vehicle to drive on snow and ice. Several times driving to work over the pennines on the m62 over the last week or so, most traffic has been going at 50-60ish because conditions don't allow for going any faster but still , transit vans seem to be able to drive along the mostly empty outside lane which is covered in a layer of snow at 90mph. Or at least they think they can safely do it.... I'm sure the reality would be very different if something caused them to have to brake.

driving along the motorway at night with the left over snow frmo the few days previous. and started to hail, like golf balls, thought they was going to smash through my windscreen, could only see like a few feet infront of the car, so everyone slows down to around 25 wich i still thought was a bit speedy.. then some prick, oblivious any of this was gonig on, hooning it past us at 60??!! i couldnt believe my eyes. a shame i didnt see him planted in a ditch later down the road, maybe he saw sense and realised his driving didnt exactly match the conditions.. must have slowed down.

I've been in the same situation where viability is nill and everyone (almost everyone) drops to about 30mph on the motorway and on goes lights and fogs, then some people carry on at 60-70, clearly unable to see things way within their stopping distance

I've noticed alot of people still driving normally up here too. They end up behind me and sit on my hoop but when they come to overtake they chicken out and back off.

I think alot of the problem is all these safety stability and traction control systems. Everyone must think "I've got traction control, nothing will happen to me" But I don't think they realise that if the car starts to slide and all four wheels end up with no grip, no matter how many traction control systems you have none of them will save the car.

Good old fashion common sense is the best traction control around and most people have it

no matter how many traction control systems you have none of them will save the car.

:-D 58

The other night I was driving home from work it was freezing and was mid snow/raining. The Skoda Octavia Taxi in front of me was tailgating the Jag in front of it, then coming towards a roundabout where the roads widens, the taxi overtakes entering the roundabout far too fast. Realising his mistake you see his brake lights slam on, but alas it was too late and he performed a ungraceful 180 degree spin backwards into the curb. idiot, but I lol'd, instant justice :-D

Good old fashion common sense is the best traction control around and most people have it

You live in cuckoo land if you think that

i get annoyed at the people who just think because the road they're on is icy and the road I'm on is clear and gritted, they have every right to pull out on me!

Also the people who do 20mph on a perfectly clear road really piss me off. Cant overtake either as they sit in the middle so even oncoming traffic has to take avoiding action.

The other night I was driving home from work it was freezing and was mid snow/raining. The Skoda Octavia Taxi in front of me was tailgating the Jag in front of it, then coming towards a roundabout where the roads widens, the taxi overtakes entering the roundabout far too fast. Realising his mistake you see his brake lights slam on, but alas it was too late and he performed a ungraceful 180 degree spin backwards into the curb. idiot, but I lol'd, instant justice :-D

i can imagine the smirk on the jeeeeaaaaag owners face now

Good old fashion common sense is the best traction control around and most people have it

You live in cuckoo land if you think that

i get annoyed at the people who just think because the road they're on is icy and the road I'm on is clear and gritted, they have every right to pull out on me!

Also the people who do 20mph on a perfectly clear road really piss me off. Cant overtake either as they sit in the middle so even oncoming traffic has to take avoiding action.

thats the biggest piss take of all, when the road is fully gritted and has good traction people still persist it slippy and do 10-20mph.

i can imagine the smirk on the jeeeeaaaaag owners face now

Yep, I nearly evil laughed tbh harharhar

they should start calling it rare sense

because theres not much common about it anymore.

people deffinately seem to feel cocooned in modern cars, the other night i was out with the mrs, as i didnt want her driving on her own and we watched a moron in a vauxhall vectra approach a t junction at a good 25 mph with 3 car lengths before he needed to stop. needless to say we watch him slide right out in front of us, with a kinda, 'just filled his pants' look on his face. there was no chance he was gonna stop in time.

didnt help that the local council didn't grit at all over the cold snap, but its still no excuse

Crashed cars everywhere,in snowy MK.

I dont see how anyone can even crash in the snow (unless forced to by an idiot,as in this case),but my street has railings smashed up from some fool who actually thought they could drive down the hill and stop at the bottom..

I've never crashed in the snow,because I'm careful enough. I'm patient. Maybe its the spoilt brat brigade who just expect so much these days? A hundred quid says the car that mashed our railings had ABS etc.

But its not all 'fool-proof' cars. The slammed Golf MK1 cab that ended its life near Peartree Bridge a fortnight ago,what was their excuse? All sorts of vehicles actually,half beemers admittedly.

These drivers were just retards. No excuse for the carnage. No use blaming the salt spreaders etc. If you cant drive in the snow,you shouldn't be driving in the dry either, IMO.

yeah theres loads of cars about with indicators hanging off, bumpers hanging off, front ends smashed in. You'd think that seeing these things and having a basic concept about physics that you'd realise that you can't drive normally. It doesn't matter how hard you mush you brake pedal and steer frantically if there is no grip then your just going to keep going in a straight line.

I think its great that people arent scared by it though!

My mum absolutely craps her self if she sees a snowflake while she is driving, wont go anywhere in it. What these people are gaining by crashing is experience.

We got the worktruck sideways last week which shows how Icy it was!

watched a dumbass smash into a kerb too. Definately heard a crunching noise!!!!!!!!

when ever snow settles around here the hand break comes out in force... side ways FTW

What these people are gaining by crashing is experience.

Hypothetically thats fine. But the reality is she got away with it and will probably keep driving like a complete moron and I'm left with this that I have to revert back into a circle.

Must admit, the whole story with modern cars feeling safer is so true. But it's a major flaw, I mean for example, my dad is usually a good driver...however, it seems he's been lulled into a false sense of security with his ABS and traction control considering I was pissing myself laughing at how he didn't understand that braking distances were shortened considerably in sheet ice which very nearly ended up seeing the front of his new works car bashed in by a garden wall at 15mph...which wouldn't have been nice on the pocket tbh.

I think older cars where you feel everything on the road with no abs, no traction control and no power steering are simply THE best cars to learn in and simply drive. Screw modern cars.

What are the roads like up in Newcastle, heartagram?

And the A1 and A167 coming into Newcastle for that matter.

I think its great that people arent scared by it though!

My mum absolutely craps her self if she sees a snowflake while she is driving, wont go anywhere in it. What these people are gaining by crashing is experience.

You're making big assumptions there, be careful. You're assuming that everyone learns from crashes/near misses they have, but it's rather rare unfortunately.

What these people are gaining by crashing is experience.

Hypothetically thats fine. But the reality is she got away with it and will probably keep driving like a complete moron and I'm left with this that I have to revert back into a circle.

Oh no, not the venoms!!!!

Its dire tbh. I don't think the A1 will be to bad cause it gets used a lot. Anywhere thats used a lot is okay but it hasn't been gritted and side streets are a nightmare. Hopefully the gritters will be out soon.

I think its great that people arent scared by it though!

My mum absolutely craps her self if she sees a snowflake while she is driving, wont go anywhere in it. What these people are gaining by crashing is experience.

You're making big assumptions there, be careful. You're assuming that everyone learns from crashes/near misses they have, but it's rather rare unfortunately.

What these people are gaining by crashing is experience.

Hypothetically thats fine. But the reality is she got away with it and will probably keep driving like a complete moron and I'm left with this that I have to revert back into a circle.

Oh no, not the venoms!!!!

Big hammer + chemical metal