In some circumstances the SS works but 90% of the time it is completely unessary to scrap a working car and get a

Modern car instead.

I can't thing of one case where the scrappage scheme actually provided a viable solution to anyone wanted a new car.

I mean the car you needed to give up had to be:

Over 10 years old

Had a valid MOT

Had a valid tax disc

Had to be in roadworthy condition

Had to be driven to the dealer

The list goes on.

So where is the sense is scrapping a car that would have lasted you or someone else at least until the MOT ran out?

I'd understand if they accepted MOT failures too, then they could come up with some other advertising campaigns, for example "Your old car not passing the MOT emissions test? Get a new car with lower emissions and we will give you £2000 for your old one"

The end result would be the same so why not?

It would be like going to the local council tip with an old Sky Box but you have to prove its in perfect working order before the dude lets you throw it in the compactor.

^^ wasn't that the while reason they started it? To boost our economy by buying a foreign car?

Hurr durr I'm Gordon brown derp

:lol:

so my argument is still valid yes an old car may have higher emissions but its still better to have older cars running as they dont come anywere close to the emissions created when you take into consideration how much co2 is produced by

making a new car

shipping them new cars

shipping the old cars

stripping the old cars

and scrapping the shells of the old cars

Yes you are right... but the main reason and eventually the only reason for the scheme was to get people spending their money on new cars. And in that case it was a success.

Saved my job. JD.

In some circumstances the SS works but 90% of the time it is completely unessary to scrap a working car and get a

Modern car instead.

I can't thing of one case where the scrappage scheme actually provided a viable solution to anyone wanted a new car.

I mean the car you needed to give up had to be:

Over 10 years old

Had a valid MOT

Had a valid tax disc

Had to be in roadworthy condition

Had to be driven to the dealer

The list goes on.

So where is the sense is scrapping a car that would have lasted you or someone else at least until the MOT ran out?

I'd understand if they accepted MOT failures too, then they could come up with some other advertising campaigns, for example "Your old car not passing the MOT emissions test? Get a new car with lower emissions and we will give you £2000 for your old one"

The end result would be the same so why not?

It would be like going to the local council tip with an old Sky Box but you have to prove its in perfect working order before the dude lets you throw it in the compactor.

That was to stop people buying sheds off eGay for £25 and trading them in.

The scheme did what it was intended for and that was to stop the UK motor industry going under whilst people were busy not spending. Environmentally it's a sham. Economically it worked a treat.

[ Economically it worked a treat.

Exactly this the plan worked perfectly. I did some reading on it at the time. I dont have the website for reference sorry but I did read that in different parts of the country they had allocated land to store the cars. The contracts covered up to 25 years to store the cars. I'm not sure if they followed through with this but it could mean these cars will be around for up to another 25 before they are actually scrapped. I'll try to dig it up was an interesting read.

In some circumstances the SS works but 90% of the time it is completely unessary to scrap a working car and get a

Modern car instead.

I can't thing of one case where the scrappage scheme actually provided a viable solution to anyone wanted a new car.

I mean the car you needed to give up had to be:

Over 10 years old

Had a valid MOT

Had a valid tax disc

Had to be in roadworthy condition

Had to be driven to the dealer

The list goes on.

So where is the sense is scrapping a car that would have lasted you or someone else at least until the MOT ran out?

I'd understand if they accepted MOT failures too, then they could come up with some other advertising campaigns, for example "Your old car not passing the MOT emissions test? Get a new car with lower emissions and we will give you £2000 for your old one"

The end result would be the same so why not?

It would be like going to the local council tip with an old Sky Box but you have to prove its in perfect working order before the dude lets you throw it in the compactor.

That was to stop people buying sheds off eGay for £25 and trading them in.

The scheme did what it was intended for and that was to stop the UK motor industry going under whilst people were busy not spending. Environmentally it's a sham. Economically it worked a treat.

The clause of owning the car for a year, or two did that job.

So why was there a need for it to have an MOT etc?

The environmental factor. It meant taking cars off the road that were actually getting used, and replacing them with cleaner ones. If you just traded in a banger or spares car you had lying about for a few years, it wouldn't have taken a "dirty" car off the road would it?

I don't strictly agree with the scheme but it or something similar needed to be done...

My dad 400k mileage volvo fetched £4000 off the '10 plate golf

was worth ermm..£50 if you lucky lol

My tatty Saxo VTR was going to get £3k off a brand new Corsa VXR... but I pulled out at the last minute. That was when the scrappage scheme was still going, and Vauxhall offered a further discount. Now they do swappage which can be quite a good deal...

So why was there a need for it to have an MOT etc?

Probably to stop people from driving un-mot'd and therefore un-insured cars to dealers.