Right basically I ran out of room to keep parts and cars and long story short I had to park an untaxed Polo out on the road for a few days just outside my house.

Anyway of course Mr Plod comes along and whacks a £60 fine on my car for no tax.

I have no problem with that, I broke the law and I was punished fairly, so I paid the fine in full.

Anyway today I come home to find a letter from the DVLA.

They claim to have had a report of my car being on a public road while there was no tax on the car...but the report was given at the exact same date and time as the initial no tax fine. So obviously Mr Plod has not only written out his ticket but reported me to the DVLA aswell.

So now the DVLA want to charge me an additional £156 for the same offence that I've already been done and paid a fine for.

Are they legally allowed to charged someone twice for the same offence?

All advise on anything I can do to counteract this would be most appreciated.

I'd politely write them a letter explaining the circumstances and saying you've already been punished for the crime.

Good luck.

This might help.

http://www.lawontheweb.co.uk/Road_Traffic_...oad_Tax_and_MOT

Nah, they still hold you over the barrel as you have commited two offenses...

1. Having an unlicenced vehicle on highway - dvla fine

2. Not displaying tax disc - cops fine

I was stung the same wheni bought my 540, tried to fight it, didn't work, sent off the £60 fine (cash in envelope thinking it'll make it ok) , they lost it so had to pay it again then hit with the DVLA charge.

Result - £276 out of pocket plus still had to tax the 540.

Feckers!!!

Couldn't you argue that it was there because there was nowhere else for it? Yes it may technically be on the road but it wasn't being used.

Couldn't you argue that it was there because there was nowhere else for it? Yes it may technically be on the road but it wasn't being used.

of course you cant! (well you could, but it wont get you far)

it its on the public road, it must be taxed, period.

if you fail to renew a sorn and apply a month late, youll get charged for that month, even if you can provide dated photographic evidence showing the car explicitly off the road.

of course you cant! (well you could, but it wont get you far)

I still would, just to inconveniance them.

it its on the public road, it must be taxed, period.

What if you left it on axle stands? Technically not on the road.

i doubt they would be 'inconvenianced'

a) its not a word

b) its their job, you'd just be detracting from them doing useful work elsewhere, and why because you were in the wrong and couldnt man up and accept it!

and italics or not, it is technically still on the road...

Right basically I ran out of room to keep parts and cars and long story short I had to park an untaxed Polo out on the road for a few days just outside my house.

Anyway of course Mr Plod comes along and whacks a £60 fine on my car for no tax.

I have no problem with that, I broke the law and I was punished fairly, so I paid the fine in full.

Anyway today I come home to find a letter from the DVLA.

They claim to have had a report of my car being on a public road while there was no tax on the car...but the report was given at the exact same date and time as the initial no tax fine. So obviously Mr Plod has not only written out his ticket but reported me to the DVLA aswell.

So now the DVLA want to charge me an additional £156 for the same offence that I've already been done and paid a fine for.

Are they legally allowed to charged someone twice for the same offence?

All advise on anything I can do to counteract this would be most appreciated.

You'll get backtaxed, up to the point of last having tax on the vehicle, so since the sorn expired, or the tax ran out.

its a shit, but its the law! i got fined after forgetting to resorn my mk1, which hasnt been on the road since 2004! still had to man up and pay the 60 quid. Tried to reason my case, but it was futile!

i doubt they would be 'inconvenianced'

and italics or not, it is technically still on the road...

you'd just be detracting from them doing useful work elsewhere

Are we still talking about the DVLA here?

Sorry to thread jack but I'm in a similar situation; my tax ran out a couple of months ago and because I had taken the car off the road more or less at that time I didn't renew it but forgot to declare SORN.

I was pretty complacent about it as I just thought the DVLA would send me a warning before any action would be taken but it seems they can charge me for the months that have passed where the car has been 'undeclared' in any way (back tax) or just straight up fine me?

If this is true, I don't know whether to just declare it SORN asap and hope they won't take it furthur, or to write them a letter at the same time basically apologising about it aswell as declaring SORN but at the obvious risk of bringing it to their attention and possibly incurring them to do something? I'm not sure how well that second option would be taken though?

regardless of which way you do it, you will get a letter asking for a money in back tax.

i doubt they would be 'inconvenianced'

a) its not a word

b) its their job, you'd just be detracting from them doing useful work elsewhere, and why because you were in the wrong and couldnt man up and accept it!

and italics or not, it is technically still on the road...

regardless of which way you do it, you will get a letter asking for a money in back tax.

Ah ok. Do you know if there will be a fine aswell? I don't mind paying the tax, I think it was only about 2 months tbh

i sorn'd the mk1 4 months late and got charged about 60-80 quid (can't remember the exact figure!)

think it was pro-rata plus a small fine, thrown away all the paperwork sorry.

i did state the car was off the road for around 7 years and had dated pictures to prove, but to no avail, it fell on deaf ears

you'd just be detracting from them doing useful work elsewhere

Are we still talking about the DVLA here?

This really confuses me as it involves Useful & Work in a sentence describing the DVLA.

I'm still waiting for a V5 for my mk2 golf, its been 4 weeks (wouldnt mind but my one for the passat I bought my rents turned up in 5 days), seller posted it off recorded the day after I picked it up (sent me a photocopy of the Post Office receipt), DVLA have no record of receiving it but according to the PO someone there has signed for it

I keep getting fines & prosecution warnings for a car I scrapped 8 years ago, I stick a photocopy of the dissemblers certificate and a copy (of a copy) of the V5, back into the dvla's envelope and return to sender written on it.

Well, I've figured I did commit two offences so eventually I will have to pay this extra £156.

Personally I still think its pure revenue collection but there we go.

I have written them a letter stating how unhappy I am but hopefully should suspend payment by a little bit as they were wanting me to somehow gather £156 in less than 2 weeks of recieving the letter or I go to court.

Sorry to thread jack but I'm in a similar situation; my tax ran out a couple of months ago and because I had taken the car off the road more or less at that time I didn't renew it but forgot to declare SORN.

I was pretty complacent about it as I just thought the DVLA would send me a warning before any action would be taken but it seems they can charge me for the months that have passed where the car has been 'undeclared' in any way (back tax) or just straight up fine me?

If this is true, I don't know whether to just declare it SORN asap and hope they won't take it furthur, or to write them a letter at the same time basically apologising about it aswell as declaring SORN but at the obvious risk of bringing it to their attention and possibly incurring them to do something? I'm not sure how well that second option would be taken though?

Ring them and tell them that you've not yet received your SORN confirmation, and you're a bit concerned. I think you're suppose to wait up to 28 days (check that on the DVLA site!) after making a SORN declaration via post to hear back from them. If you don't hear back, it's your responsibility to contact them to tell them about it. Means that you could *possibly* blag it if it's not been too long.

I still get sorn reminders for a car I chopped up about 3 years ago, I sent off the log book as scrapped and flowed this up with 3 letters explaining it was scrapped and I hadn't had confirmation from them. I just keep sorning it now, I've been meaning to phone them about it but I know I'm good for another 10 months so I doubt i'll do it any time soon

Still haven't received my log book from the Chevette I bought about 5 months ago either, guess I'll have to give them more money for a new log book.

They really are a useless bag of cocks.

if you haven't recieved your logbook you can send off your new keepers slip with a v62 form and get a new V5 free of charge

if you haven't recieved your logbook you can send off your new keepers slip with a v62 form and get a new V5 free of charge

This is really easy as we did this with mine (the previous owner never got a log book he had a slip so we put my name on it instead and sent to DVLA).

Also your reason above is exactly why I've given up my parking space to our new Ducato van as it has no tax due to being NHS motor we cannot legally drive it on the tax disc it has. Although its a big van got all 4 tyres on private land. No arguement if police come around.