you have to be able except critisism lad. if you cant your fcuked.

to be honest with a 6n on budget coilies, there isnt enough adjustment on anything other than heignt to give you a "setup" or multipal "setups", and with suposedly very good tyres, theres not to many other problems you can have.

unless theres an oil spill on the road your driving, the only reason your getting understeer is the driver.

your childishness and imaturity is showing anytime anyone hints that the fault is your own.

that your either not taking the corner right or your going too fast into it..

Nah got decent coilovers, got hankook tyres all round and understeer isnt particularly down to the driver.

Mainly i get the problem around sharper corners, but do not have the problem on sort of long sweeping bends, and I've been in a polo which doesnt really have the same problem, obviously you except understeer at some point but mine seems to be quite a lot.

Well I'm sorry the you believe what you want at the end of the day, and I'm sure your no expert driver yourself.

And i never said my intention was to take corners as quickly as possible on public roads, and again please do not judge my driving abilities.

you have been told several times to stop your problem is to slow down, nut you said thats not what you had in mind.

so you, that means you want to take corners as quickly as possable.

you simply cannot accept the fact that the main problem has to be you.

no i am not an expert, but i have alot more experiance that you sir.

and i wouldnt ask this kind of question, its like something my little brother would ask.

"Mainly i get the problem around sharper corners, but do not have the problem on sort of long sweeping bends"

duh!! this even proves its just you, expecting way to much of the car, of just not driving it properly..

when you post a topic, asking a question like this, you need to be able accept critisism, especily when the answer is you.

To be honest you talk about childishness and maturity yet you keep coming back with these petty comments. so by your books your just as bad as me..... i can no longer be bothered with you and this silly argument, why did you ever bother comment. goodbye

Hi Peter, I'm still learning but have a keen interest in all this and have had for quite some time. As far as I can make out, it's all about weight transfer. You have to remember that this is caused by the particular driving style of the driver aswell as how the suspension is set up.

At what stage of the corner are you getting this understeer? Is it on turn-in, the steady state part, or the corner exit?

If it is just on the steady state part of the corner (in the middle) then that would be alot easier to diagnose and cure, as you should be on constant throttle and have constant steering input so driving style doesn't really come into it. The loading on the tyres is down to front:rear weight distribution of the car and front/rear spring stiffness' including ARBs (roll centres aswell but these aren't adjustable so no need to worry about them).

If the problem is on turn in or corner exit then it's all a bit more complicated. I can't imagine it's corner exit understeer as I imagine you would just spin the inside wheel even if you completely booted the throttle in your 1.0. Assuming it's understeer on turn in, before the car has had time to settle into the steady state phase, that can be affected by what you are doing with the pedals whilst turning, or the difference between front and rear damper rates.

Try and find out where in the corner the car is understeering, and we can maybe give you some more advice. This is all mainly explained in mark's link, but put basically if your understeer is in the steady state part you can adjust it with springs or front rear weight distribution. If you are understeering on turn in, you will need to look at what you are doing with the pedals as you can't adjust your dampers.

Please note I'm still learning and am not an expert, and this also assumes that your camber and tyre pressures are at optimum which could of course also be the problem(s)!

did you fit the coilovers yourself? and is the camber set up correctly?

camber can cause queer steering,too much positive or negative will have a bad response,not only to the load of the tyre to the road but also the movement of the suspension

after fitting coilovers to my 6n i found bad understeer and the car would skip sideways on manholes,better camber made it handle sweet

also can depend on the tyres profile,fat tyres wont help understeer regardless of brand

CWA - i find it a little in the middle of the corner not much though pretty managable, but mainly on the exit. entrance to the corner is fine though..... Cheers mate

And gaz yeah fitted them myself, and yeah camber is set correctly but cant remember the figures off the top of my head, and yeah I've heard a few people saying they got understeer too and yeah i get the same problem with manholes as well! just curious to whether or not its curable :/

The only time i've had understeer is going too fast around things (such as larger roundabouts, mainly in quieter places when i'm being a bit of a cock)

However if you are going too fast into sharp bends that's a bit stupid..you never know what's around the corner and wouldn't be surprised if it led to a crash, could easily endanger you or other people :/ try going slower around corners and not thrashing it around so much..

However if you aren't going fast around corners and still finding it understeer, maybe something like your tracking is actually out or hasn't been done properly? Might be worth checking it out

CWA - i find it a little in the middle of the corner not much though pretty managable, but mainly on the exit. entrance to the corner is fine though..... Cheers mate

And gaz yeah fitted them myself, and yeah camber is set correctly but cant remember the figures off the top of my head, and yeah I've heard a few people saying they got understeer too and yeah i get the same problem with manholes as well! just curious to whether or not its curable :/

on the throttle too early?

havnt read all of this...but have you tried such things as wheel spacers? going slower into corners with less steering input, being smoother....not being funny but I'm from a racing background...and the amount of people i get in a car with and say ''yeah i can drive I'm mint, i know how to drive bla bla' and they're fucking useless and just blame it on the car.

at the end of the day its a front wheel drive car, where you can improve the handling, its always gonna want to understeer, maybe just the whole platform of a 6n is bad anyway...wider tyres could help? or perhaps knowing what coilvoers you have? if they're only height adjustable i doubt they're anything fancy..and tbh, should you really be driving like this on public roads? :)

then again, slowing it down more into corners may not be an option being a 1 litre...gotta keep momentum up to get to maccies 21 seconds faster