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Nice. Is that a Peugeot item?

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  • Retrotub
    Retrotub

    It passed, which has been a long awaited goal. I'm not sure how much of the tidying up ill have done, so it will be a bit messy still but it will be at polo social which has been the target.

  • Ok, tomorrow its booked in for its MOT. Its not been on the road for two years and that was with the standard engine etc. I know its not a revolutionary engine upgrade and bike carbs are commonplace

  • kwijibo_coupe
    kwijibo_coupe

    Well, time for an update on this.   In July 2018 JC contacted me asking if I wanted to buy this saloon. I was hesitant at first just because I know how much work JC has put into this car and

I've got a servo in my LHD and swap back to modern car catches me out. I activated the ABS in a Yaris last night when someone reversed into the road in front of me.

Looking forwards to progress with this. One inlet runner should provide sufficient vacuum.

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Cheers guys.

It's a mk1 golf cabriolet part. I've seen one other mk2 on here with this set up. I'm of the belief that with this the braided hoses and the VW11's it will be pretty good and I can sell on my 256mm set up which can't use at the moment without a bigger master cylinder.

I'm going to try one take off from the bike csrbs initially. I called bogg bros yesterday and they said its all I'd need probably.

Just getting parts together as a winter project.

Cheers

JC

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So my servo install has plodded on when time could be spared. To be fair, my father in law has taken the lead on getting my plan in and working as I've a new job which is eating up all my time.

 

It's moved along a fair bit. I've changed from using the mk1 golf cab servo itself, as it was too deep into the centre of the bay. It was almost touching the dizzy and some of the other stuff going on there.

 

I thought that with natural car forces and engine movement I'd end up with not just rubbing but things breaking.

 

Therefore I've opted for the servo from a 6n2.

 

It's all mounted and the pedal works with all the mechanism. It's just brake lines to sort and then see what we have got.

 

 

dont forget some pics please , got a linkage waiting for mine when i can be bothered  

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good stuff...is it the right length?

 

how does the servo come apart

 

thanks for the pics

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Ill write up a full commentary soon.

A lot going on. Minor adjustments everywhere, but nothing too major.

 

Original golf cab serco was too thick - it wouldnt fit, but that twisted to release. The 6n2 servo I'm using crimps closed.

 

Pipes need connecting up, but need a couple of t peices first.

Looking good JC and good to see you using all VW parts. You should use T pieces from a mk2f to keep the theme going ;)

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These were connected up a little while ago.

 

Ugly up on the wing but we wanted to see if everything would work.

 

The length of the cross member of the mechanism hasn't been changed. I spoke to Steve at the Polo Social who has done this before and he commented on the box bracket could foul the steering on hard cornering, but he had shortened the mechanism, so its fitted on mine at full length across to take it away from that a bit more i hope.

The 6n2 servo had a different shaft with a taper and a ball shape on the end. So that had to be cut off and a thread applied to fit the mechanism.

A great force was needed to reassemble the servo. that's why i was using the plank as a lever under the camper, and the old alloy wheel made a good workbench as the centre hole fitted the servo well.

 

 

 

Things have moved on from this.

The take off is complete for the vacuum and its got a nice stiff pedal.

 

Im just fitting the different wheel cylinders from a 1.0lt as my beam id from a GT. Apparently the different diameter will give me back a reasonable bias.

Not sure if im going to try again with the 256mm front set up, ill see how it goes with the  vwii's,

 

Definitely getting some different air filters and ditching the home made box Ryan put together, as it takes up too much room.

 

 

 

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Ohh and i need to find a suitable resevoir cap  - the current one isn't touching the bonnet when standing still, but very close. Its a tall cap.

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Well, time for an update on this.

 

In July 2018 JC contacted me asking if I wanted to buy this saloon. I was hesitant at first just because I know how much work JC has put into this car and I knew I'd want to change a few things if it were mine.

But I've always wanted a saloon, I've always wanted to try bike carbs and I've wanted another mk2 since my last one died of tin worm. So it wasn't long until I said yes and we got the ball rolling to transfer ownership to myself.

 

In November JC became an absolute legend in my eyes by driving this car all the way up to Peterhead to deliver it to me. I have never had that before and I doubt it will ever happen again. 

 

Anyway this was how the car was delivered to me.

32895363448_71574fd0b5_k.jpg20181116_084525 by Steven Thomson, on Flickr

39805651253_d1f73a47f8_k.jpg20181116_084539 by Steven Thomson, on Flickr

 

First thing I had to do, fix the handbrake that broke on the way up the road. Was nice and easy, just the cable had snapped. Luckily a new one was already and waiting in the car to be installed.

31829526737_5942d71ed8_k.jpg20181117_125411 by Steven Thomson, on Flickr

46718198652_96696cafd6_k.jpg20181117_125407 by Steven Thomson, on Flickr

 

Next on the list and first of the major changes to the car, the wheels. I liked the Wolfrace Anniversary wheels, but I just didn't think they suited this car. Mainly due to the size of them. 

So on went a set of wheels I felt were a better size and period appropriate. A set of 13x6 BBS Mahles.

I personally think they transform the look of the car.

31829385237_ccb840bb2a_k.jpg20181117_144933 by Steven Thomson, on Flickr

 

Keeping with the wheel theme I decided to change the steering wheel for something a little different but again hopefully in keeping with the period of the car.

Standard:

45855881425_960eb3b5e1_k.jpg20181128_092130 by Steven Thomson, on Flickr

Mountney:

46045771624_6e0d326103_k.jpg20181128_093618 by Steven Thomson, on Flickr

The Mountney not only looks great in my opinion but also feels much better than the original. It is thicker and has a slightly smaller diameter which I think gives the steering a more positive feel.

 

Now onto a running issue, which I was a little scared of at first. JC mentioned that the car didn't seem to like cruising at much above 65, but it would get there fine. So I'm thinking it is maybe a combination of the big wheels, the 8P gearbox and since it has been sitting a while the carbs might need a clean.

After changing the wheels to the 13s (which in effect geared the car down) it still didn't like going above 65 on the speedo (probably closer to 60 on these wheels) and if I gave it the beans in 2nd it would fall flat on it's face in 3rd as if it had run out of fuel. 

Feeling a little out of my depth having never touch a set of carbs I dived right in.

45855883165_ac3df1b560_k.jpg20181116_084501 by Steven Thomson, on Flickr

 

On the advice of @Cymro I removed the little cone filters and stripped the carbs down. To my surprise the carbs were spotless inside, so that meant I could narrow the issue down to one culprit, the fuel delivery.

This was the fuel line setup I took off the car.

46046071664_250957b79f_k.jpgIMG-20181212-WA0015 by Steven Thomson, on Flickr

And this (excuse the drawing marks) is how I was going to attempt to improve the issue.

46771311741_8a0bd09097_k.jpg20181212_161955 by Steven Thomson, on Flickr

 

This was the end result. 

I have spun the fuel pump round 180° and taken a good 6ft in total out of the fuel line that was in the engine bay. Plus the fuel now has a more direct route to the carbs instead of going through quite a few Ts and elbows. 

39805649883_889dca6da9_k.jpg20181213_124639 by Steven Thomson, on Flickr

 

To my surprise...this worked!! Absolutely transformed how the car drove, completely. It will now happily cruise at 90...err 70 without any hesitation and I can give it the beans to the top of every gear without any feeling the car is being starved of fuel.

 

After that the car spent the next few days in this position as I fitted a new exhaust and chased down about 100 cracks and pin holes in the eBay manifold.

45855878545_744d45a80a_k.jpg20181217_115659 by Steven Thomson, on Flickr

 

Once the exhaust was sorted with about 3kg of welding wire, well I say sorted it is relatively leak free now but I'm still not happy with the sound, I decided to give the car a new face to start 2019 with.

I swapped out the smoked indicator and side repeaters in favour of standard orange units and also fitted a single lamp grill. 

 

46718074142_787d765db2_k.jpg20181230_113857 by Steven Thomson, on Flickr

 

46718073772_9db0386277_k.jpg20181230_113909 by Steven Thomson, on Flickr

 

Since these photos were taken I have been using the car as a daily and my have I enjoyed doing so! 

People say bike carbs are unreliable and a nightmare in the winter? My experience of them since the fuel delivery fix has been amazing, the car starts without issue, is happy to set off immediately and is an absolute joy to drive about in. 

I think the car could do with a shorter gearbox and slightly bigger tyres on the wheels to really finish it off. 

I should have an 8N gearbox heading my way soon and I plan on putting some 175/60/13 Yoko A539 tyres on the wheels after next pay day.

 

Again I must say a big thanks to @Retrotub for selling my this car and delivering it. Also I feel I have to apologise as I have come away from your intended project/look for the car. But hopefully you approve of everything I have done so far and my future plans.

Good work by all and a great story to go with it - it an absolute rarity for a seller to hand deliver a car to another country these days!

@kwijibo_coupe

Are you going to change id to kwijibo_loon?

( nice to have a brake servo) 

8 hours ago, dvderlm said:

@kwijibo_coupe

Are you going to change id to kwijibo_loon?

( nice to have a brake servo) 

 

No as I cannot take credit for any of the major work on the car, even though I now own it, I didn't build it so I don;t see it as my build if you know what I mean?

 

The brakes are amazing! Literally the best Polo brakes I've ever felt. They actually feel better than my Mk5 Golf. 

  • 1 month later...

Decided to film a little drive out in this.

 

 

  • 11 months later...

Loving the new look and especially the color! 

I'm also going for the bike carb conversion, so it is a good thread to get motivation running for my build (sadly all the pictures from last owner has been deleted from this thread).

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