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Right I sold my car yesterday to a guy from trefforest. He test drove the car and liked it. He knew the tracking was way out because the other half hit a pot hole well more of a ditch in the road. Well he test drove it tested the brakes and everything even went over it all with a fine tooth comb and agreed to buy it for £500 well I gave him a receipt and it clearly stated sold as seen and he knew it was. Well anyway he took it to the garage around his way and the told him that its not road worthy. They told him the front pads and discs were gone(and I knew they have plenty of life left in them both) the callipers were seized and wheel bearings were gone. Anyway he told me that the garage told him to report me as its a criminal offence to sell a car in that state but I knew only the tracking was out. Can anyone help me? I think I'm in the right as it clearly stated the car was sold as seen?

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tell him to provide photographic evidence with today's paper in each photo.

He's trying to pull a fast one by the sound of things. say you want to have it inspected by a garage of your choice, but if he goes down that route then VOSA will need to inspect it.

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Thanks guys that's a bit better for me and the only way I can think of the brakes going is if the release spring on the brake pedal has come out again and its held the brakes on a bit all the way home and that's y things have gone wrong. I have asked him to ask his mechanic to check that. He said it wouldn't even do 65 on the way home but I drove at 70mph not even half hour before I met him

I gave him a receipt and it clearly stated sold as seen and he knew it was.

Tell him to do one mate...

I gave him a receipt and it clearly stated sold as seen and he knew it was.

Tell him to do one mate...

:thumbsup:

You were wise to write a receipt with that on it, he's got no right to say anything about it, he should've inspected it more when he had a test drive.

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Yeah I got done by that before when I bought a car he didn't put sold as seen and I took it back let's just say he's not trading anymore and I know but if it is the release spring on the brake pedal that's y everything has all gone its a fair few miles from mine to his house and if the brakes have stuck on along with the tracking out maybe that's helped the old wheel bearings go as well

Sounds like a dick..he bought the car for £500... He knew of some problems, he just needs to man up and sort them

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The car was mint as well only one bit of rust on the rear bumper and the paint wasn't faded at all

'Sold as seen' has NO legal standing what so ever.

Many people put this on reciepts when they sell something unaware that it means absolutley nothing.

Importantly though if something is advertised correctly i.e "item doesnt turn on" and "sold as seen" then you cant return it if it doesnt turn on, because this was specified. However if it doesnt turn on AND it's severly physically damaged but this isnt specified then you have a legal right to return it because of the physical damage.

Under the Sale of Goods Act he has the right to 'reject' an item that is not of 'satisfactory quality'. In the first six months from when he got the car, the onus is on you (the seller) to prove the item was of satisfactory quality when he received it. If you say the problem must be due to something he (the buyer) has done, it is for you to prove that.

If he was aware of the faults before he bought the car (e.g. the tracking) then you are in a better position to dispute that he knew of the problems.

Hope this helps :) If you think he has created the problem then dispute it! :D

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Thanks that helps a bit and yeah he was happy with the car. I told him straight up that the tracking was way out and that was it he agreed to buy the car but like I said he went over the car with a fine tooth comb and even checked the brakes even took the wheel off and seen that the pads and discs had loads of travel left in them and if the release spring came out of place while he was driving on his way home that would have made the brakes stick on and wear them down while he was driving at motorway speeds

He's got no comeback unless you're a trader. It's caveat emptor when you buy a car privately. As soon as you hand over that money, the transaction is done. I'd tell him where to go tbh.

Thing is you can sell anything in any state providing someone is willing to part with the money!

If this is no longer the case then no one can buy or sell a 'project' car anymore :S

'Sold as seen' has NO legal standing what so ever.

Many people put this on reciepts when they sell something unaware that it means absolutley nothing.

Importantly though if something is advertised correctly i.e "item doesnt turn on" and "sold as seen" then you cant return it if it doesnt turn on, because this was specified. However if it doesnt turn on AND it's severly physically damaged but this isnt specified then you have a legal right to return it because of the physical damage.

Under the Sale of Goods Act he has the right to 'reject' an item that is not of 'satisfactory quality'. In the first six months from when he got the car, the onus is on you (the seller) to prove the item was of satisfactory quality when he received it. If you say the problem must be due to something he (the buyer) has done, it is for you to prove that.

If he was aware of the faults before he bought the car (e.g. the tracking) then you are in a better position to dispute that he knew of the problems.

Hope this helps :) If you think he has created the problem then dispute it! :D

This is more or less right for something bought from a trader, but not for a private sale. In a private sale it's always a case of buyer beware and their responsibility to check goods and make sure they're happy with them.

In this case, the guy looked it over, agreed a price and so long as the car isn't nicked, ringed, written off or under outstanding finance, that's the end of your involvement.

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'Sold as seen' has NO legal standing what so ever.

Many people put this on reciepts when they sell something unaware that it means absolutley nothing.

Importantly though if something is advertised correctly i.e "item doesnt turn on" and "sold as seen" then you cant return it if it doesnt turn on, because this was specified. However if it doesnt turn on AND it's severly physically damaged but this isnt specified then you have a legal right to return it because of the physical damage.

Under the Sale of Goods Act he has the right to 'reject' an item that is not of 'satisfactory quality'. In the first six months from when he got the car, the onus is on you (the seller) to prove the item was of satisfactory quality when he received it. If you say the problem must be due to something he (the buyer) has done, it is for you to prove that.

If he was aware of the faults before he bought the car (e.g. the tracking) then you are in a better position to dispute that he knew of the problems.

Hope this helps :) If you think he has created the problem then dispute it! :D

sorry to hijack but does this mean a car i bought a year ago which was a cat d write off, knackered gearbox and much more measn i could have him for not telling me that when i asked him about it?

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He's accepted all blame for the car now the spring in the brake pedal broke/came out of place and made the brakes stick on and caused all the problems even his mechanic told him lol fudging idiot

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He's accepted all blame for the car now the spring in the brake pedal broke/came out of place and made the brakes stick on and caused all the problems even his mechanic told him lol fudging idiot

thats not really his fault to be fair but neither is it yours. he just had an unlucky day i guess!

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