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Hey dudes,

Just wondering if anyone fancies sharing their NA engine ignition maps and possibly writing a bit about the engine spec, such as:

Engine:

# of valves:

Comp ratio:

Cam(s):

Fuelling method:

Just intreauged really.

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GK engine (55kW) Mk2 Polo

8 valves

11:1 CR

Stock cams

Pierburg 2E3 carb

Diginition Ignition (VW stock)

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Do you not just have the table listing values rather than pretty diagrams ;)

Nope, that's from the VW self-study guide - so you'll have to put some effort in yourself, lol! Does Megaspunk not come with loads of example maps these days?

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Yeah, but I don't know where i left the CD, iv found lots of map examples, just a bit thin on the polo front

Golf 2.0l 8v with a Piper cam - example map from my Emerald system. Made a heady 145bhp according to the map notes. :lol:

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Off my mates car..

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Been browsing a bit, found this which is a cammed 2.0 8v 11:1 CR

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a lot of the maps are very similar. Have also read about some rules or thumb, dictated by combustion chamber design, cam profile etc.

Leaner cruise will obviously require more advanced but then need to keep an eye on exhaust temps, but I'm just genrerally reading a few maps and some are very similar, need to find the CD for the list of base maps.

I like this thread. I am going to look on my Megajolt CD now.

Edit* I have a base, 205 1.6 GTi and 2.0 redtop map on CD if they would be any help?

Edit*2

Engine: HK

# of valves: 8V

Comp ratio: 9:5:1

Cam(s): 284 Newman

Fuelling method: Weber 40's

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Yeah post them up, there's a lot of patterns between maps anyway so analysing a variety of maps and seeing what effects what is good, can't find my CD so no maps as of yet, I'll be using TPS loading also but MAP gives a good indication too I guess :)

How would you convert the Polo map from the GK self-study guide which is 16x16 to the 12x12 of Megasquid?

I've seen mention of a interpolate.pl script but not found it.

Just combine/ignore the upper plateau variations?

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Cheers for that dude

This map is from a Mega Squirt 2 ECU for a 2 liter 8v VW engine

I think the first table is the main spark table and the second table only kick in under certain conditions.

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Got loads more if you want a look or i could send you the file if you have something to open them up in

file extension is .vex

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Mine seems serious advanced in all areas. Boggs put this one on.

I complained about not seeing much power although usually retarding too much causes lack of power and too much advance usually signals knock.

I'm glad i've got rev limiter to 6500 rpm.

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Been playing with this initial spark table generator for Microsquirt3 (no I'm not going injection).

http://www.useasydocs.com/theory/spktable.htm

 

But is the GK Dignition maximum really only 30 degrees?

For a bowl in piston cross flow design I'd expect 35 to 37 degrees according to

http://www.s262612653.websitehome.co.uk/DVAndrews/timing.htm.

 

One more thing, I know there's idle stabilisation, but how can the GK  idle with 0 degrees advance from 700rpm odd to 960rpm? Is the GK Dignition graph plot showing the advance amount to be added to 5 degrees static?

 

So maximum spark point actually occurs 35 degrees BTDC.

On 5/25/2016 at 22:40, dvderlm said:

One more thing, I know there's idle stabilisation, but how can the GK  idle with 0 degrees advance from 700rpm odd to 960rpm?

That is for improving emissions at idle, late burn hot manifold etc. Bit like a vac retard dizzy

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bumping this up...anyone still into this and got anything to share

i have homemade tune for a abd/3f , not really sure its worth posting but message me if you wanted it 

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