Fuel pump primes makes a wishing noise .

Got no easy start get some from Hellfords tomorrow , battery flat now , I noticed two silver relays clipped to the side of the ecu ?

When it died It had no funny smells of oil , coolant or burning

Just going to get battery out of bready and try that ..

New battery fresh fuel still no joy , will get some easy start spray tomorrow and blast it down the throttle body ..

I hope it starts with this easy start spray then at least I can put it down to a fuel problem . Do not like the sound of the ecu been knackered

after cranking whats the plugs looks like ? dry or soaking wet

all the engine earths clean and tight?

dont go stupid with the easy start its fierce stuff

Well plugs after cranking look dry ish not soaking wet .

All the engine earths are clean and tight .

Got easy start but my arms not long enough to turn key and spray easy start into throttle body

give it a 10 sec blast in the airbox and try it

plugs ought to be wet /smell of fuel

It's too late now that you have bought the easy-start, but what I was going to suggest is that you dribble about a desert spoon of petrol into the throttle body.

Like Stevo says, take it easy with the easy-start, it's powerful stuff - it's also something of an anesthetic!

Regards

Ok will try it now , as for plugs nut been wet that I thought it is a fuel problem but when I removed the fuel rail the injectors fired fuel ?

Ok will try it now , as for plugs nut been wet that I thought it is a fuel problem but when I removed the fuel rail the injectors fired fuel ?

well yeah i hear what youre saying - needs to be fuel in there for it to start so if they're dry then thats the bother?

if it tries to go on easy start then look into it more

Just used half a can of easy start with 4 lots of then seconds almost fires up but not quite ? I shall try a big hammer now

Edited 3 July, 201412 yr by 1vw2many

well maybe thats backing up that theres no fuel spraying when cranking? easy start is to help a working car so it wouldnt fire up and run if the inj are dry

running out of ideas here..could bridge the fuel pump relay with a bit of wire??

I thank you for sticking it out with me , fuel pump relay er is it located buy the ecu ? as I have two silver relays clipped on the side of it ? but unsure on the correct one for fuel pump

If I have fuel at the injectors ,the fuel pump under rear of car is doing its job yes ?

Edited 3 July, 201412 yr by 1vw2many

no idea what relay

yeah i guess the pump is working

do the gt have a blue temp sender?

Manual tells me but it is sketchy that two relays are on the side of the ecu and that they are the main relays for what I don't know. The other two relays are under the dash below the fuse box .

Fuel pump relay is on side of ecu and it is the lower of the two relays as in the manual.

Edited 3 July, 201412 yr by 1vw2many

There is a 5 pin relay and a 4 pin relay next to the ECU. I know the 5 pin one can be replaced with a number 53 relay. You'll find one in another VW.

I think it's that one that does the fueling.

@Steveo3002, yes the GTs have a blue temp. But I wouldn't recommend trying to start the car with this unplugged.

Yes it is blue and it serves the engine management system . You thinking what I am ?

was wondering if the blue temp sender is shot , i know golfs will struggle to start with a duff one

you should be able to find the ohms that it should read at a given temp , never use ebay ones

Well as process of elimination I shall buy and replace temp sender ? ecp will do ? also have full pump relay in bread van spi so might take that out and try in gt ?

id splurge for a genuine one if you decide to buy one

i seem to recall something about swapping it with the black just to try...maybe someone else has some ideas

Not sure about the answer to your last question.

If you can hear the pump priming when you switch 'on' the ignition, I would have thought that the pump relay must be OK, otherwise, you wouldn't hear it prime.

If you do check the cranking voltage, connect the voltmeter to the battery terminals - when the starter is in operation, the voltage should NOT fall below 9.5 Volts.

As has already been suggested, it may be time for a compression test, but as it simply cut out as it was idling, it doesn't really point to lack of compression.However, related to that, it is JUST possible

that there is an obstruction in the exhaust system (I suggested this to someone else recently) - As you have checked everything else, you could try soaking the exhaust flange bolts in Plus-Gas (one of the better penetrating fluids) and removing them with great care to avoid breaking them (turn a little at a time in EACH direction once the Plus-Gas has soaked in for a few hours.)

Once the flange is disconnected, try to start the engine - Should it now start, the exhaust system must have a blockage - Rare, but it does happen.

If it still wont start, all that I can suggest is that you repeat ALL of the above - The answer MUST be there somewhere!

Regards

Edit - Can't really see it being the ECU if you are getting a spark and the fuel is being injected.

Edited 3 July, 201412 yr by caretakerplus

Think I will go with plus-gas as I have plenty give them soak and do as you have said . The battery does not fall below 9.5v its 12v when I turn engine over.

Shall find what's going on exhaust manifold flange here we come did you just say FLANGE

Well for now I shall repeat soaking the exhaust flange nuts in plus-gas and attack it tomorrow .

Thanks all I shall be back