My son is only 17 and has a 1l 6n polo and he is moaning that it is slow compared to his mates saxos/puntos i dont want to get in to engine swaps as yet as I'm working a lot. The head gasket has just blown and was woundering what i could do to make it a little better I've read somewere to use the 1.3 head and a mk3 golf 1.4 throttle body is this true ?? If so what engines etc should i look for i have already ordered a super sprint 4 branch manifold and exhaust. I would like to get this sorted in the next month while he is away in America.

Thanks in advance

Billbo

I don't really know much about 6N's but I'm guessing the 1.0L engine has about the same power as the 1.0L from the mk3. And the 1.0L mk3s aren't quick at all so with the extra weight in a 6N I can imagine its dire! I don't think there is really anything worth doing to a 1.0L, it'll give you small gains for lots of money so its not really cost effective. Probably the most cost effective thing you can do is an engine swap.

Sorry I cna't be much more help!

I wouldn't have dared complain that my first car was too slow for me to my dad.

Anyhow, those sort of mods will push the insurance up a fair amount.

I thought the small engined 6N's were three cylinder engines, but they might have come in on the later ones.

I would simply get it running right and use this first car to learn the basics before worrying about how fast it gets to 60mph. Having it running just right should see incredible improvements, it going to be over 10 years old by now afterall.

My 55bhp Webber Carb'd 1.3 mk2 for example was capable of keeping up with a standard 75bhp GT, and even beating a few tatty looking ones. Could be down to driving and the GT's short gear ratios (should make it nippier) but I put it down to my car having most components replaced with good quality new parts.

**EDIT**

Sorry forgot to mention this, the point of all that is to change the headgasket for a good quality one, perhaps do the water pump and timing belt getting it running again, then concentrate renewing and lceaning other parts such is the ignition system, cooling system and fluids for example.

Edited 26 June, 200719 yr by Quinny

I would simply get it running right and use this first car to learn the basics before worrying about how fast it gets to 60mph. Having it running just right should see incredible improvements, it going to be over 10 years old by now afterall.

Basics arnt a problem for him his been racing minis for 2 years now he would just like a little more ummph . THe car it self has the AEV engine in and was his grand mothers and has coverd 34 thousend miles from new he has already lowered it and fitted a debadge grill and alloys he had the bumpers re painted due to his grand mother rubing all for corners so the body work is looking very nice just lacks a bit of power

billbo

Right ok, I apologise for my assumption.

I can not comment upon your TB and head issue because I don't know.

A 16V conversion must be the best way to up the power and see off the Saxo's and Punto's.

Drilling the airbox, stripping out any un-neccasary weight and the stainless exhaust you've just bought should improve throttle response and give it a little more poke. A remaped chip could help too.

Engine swap Sir! As others have said it will be the most cost effective way to get some real gain.

Oh and it just so happens i have a 1.6 engine with box for sale now, only done 75k.... Haha sorry for the shameless plug

Vulturism. You should be ashamed of yourself. Its not about helping the bloke make a genuine choice,but what's in it for you. Buuut - as we're on the subject,any chance of selling the box seperate? If so,how much you want for it? :)

So the the most cost effective way would be an engine swap so what should source i dont want to go as big as a 1.6 and reading throuh the posts it looks likt a GT engine is the best one but hard to come by. and what about fueling do i go for carb single point or multi point

billbo

So the the most cost effective way would be an engine swap so what should source i dont want to go as big as a 1.6 and reading throuh the posts it looks likt a GT engine is the best one but hard to come by. and what about fueling do i go for carb single point or multi point

billbo

Hard to come by?

Just so happens i have a complete GT conversion for sale due to acquiring a 6n/MK4 for a decent price so my Coupe will no longer be getting the GT.

PM if you want a complete conversion for a decent price!

i have a 1.0 with a 1.4 8v top end i believe, it keeps up with mgzr 1.4 16v's, its fairly quick. although am not really bothered about speed its slammed to the floor, that does it for me! :)

Billbo, I have a complete 3F GT engine, gearbox and loom still in the car (bought for parts).

I want the rear beam, petrol tank and fuel pumps. The rest of the running gear is of no use to me.

If you are near Maidstone and can take it and the shell (will need trailoring) you can have it for £50 or so.

The GT won't make it particularly quick though will it? Mk3 GT's are nippy, but not exactly hot. The added weight of a 6n would only make thigns worse surely?

I would have said stick the 1.4 16v out of the 6n in it, but maybe thats not a viable option. BUt yeah for the money you would spend on modifying a 1.0l to get it up to speed, you may as well swap the engine out.

Does anyone remember Olie's badgerific 6N G40??? That was quick.

The GT won't make it particularly quick though will it? Mk3 GT's are nippy, but not exactly hot. The added weight of a 6n would only make thigns worse surely?

I would have said stick the 1.4 16v out of the 6n in it, but maybe thats not a viable option. BUt yeah for the money you would spend on modifying a 1.0l to get it up to speed, you may as well swap the engine out.

Tuning the GT will be much easier though as there are more tuning parts available for it.