currently i have my gt on standard wheels and lowered 60mm on springs and shocks. the back doesnt sit right so I'm guna get some coilovers on the rear and keep the front shocks and springs i am picking up my freshly polished p-slots on thursday and I'm guna stick a 195/40/14 continental tyre on. (also have front lower and rear upper strut brace)

what DO U people THINK?? people SAY IF U AV AV A GOOD SUSPENSION/WHEEL SETUP THEY WILL HANDLE WELL BUT SURELY AS LONG AS U LOWER IT AND PUT SLIGHTLY WIDER WHEELS ON THEY WILL HANDLE Ok IS THER A SPECIFIC SETUP???????

Everyone has there own preference for suspension setups. Depends what you want really. Strut braces and polly arb blocks are always one people go on about. I've not driven a car with them on yet so I can't really comment.

yeh thats fair enuff well the front lower ged bar is brilliant massive difference..........but u cant really go wrong with suspension/wheel setup as long as u aint chopping springs and tryin 2 fit 20's 2 a mk3 it will be fine i mean rear coilovers adjusted to roughly 60mm front springs and shocks 60mm with some p-slots (195/40/14) job done surely i dont c how u can go wrong

Well depends how hard the coilovers are. I had harder springs on the back of my car than the front and it did have a big tendency in the wet for the back end to start to slide around. I did have a massive difference from the front to the back so mine was super twitchy, but I don't think your setup would be as bad. Mk3s are a bit poo when it comes to handling anyway

hahah yeh ther is always that i suppose! ther not great. just wasnt sureif the fact that i was guna put coilovers on the rear and normal (uprated springs and shcks) on the front if it would fuck the handling up.

Dont think that would mess it up .....Some coilover kits come with springs for the rear and adjustables at the front, when it comes to coilovers it all depends on your budget, the cheap ones give a harsh ride when low as possible, more expensive ones have better damping hence a more feasable ride. I prefer the coilovers (had spring on mine too) better handling.

Edited 31 July, 200719 yr by dipsy_d

i was thinking of the rear coilovers from philj

His kits are worth the money tbh, not sure what kind of ride they give.

hahah yeh ther is always that i suppose! ther not great. just wasnt sureif the fact that i was guna put coilovers on the rear and normal (uprated springs and shcks) on the front if it would fuck the handling up.

thats what I'm running..

gotta love coillies, just look at my avatar lol

j

Edited 10 August, 200719 yr by polokid

60/40 HnR kit

G-laderseite ARB blocks

G-laderseite TCA bushes

G-laderseite top mounts

OEM VAG rear axle bushes

GED brace bar

Decent tyres.

Get it all setup properly and away you go.

you are always better off buying a good quality fixed platform kit (bilstein, H&R etc) over a cheap coilover set

Personally, I'd rather not mix and mash the front and rear setups.

The front coils and dampers from a typical lowered suspension kit will more than likely be unmatched to a set of rear coilovers bought from a different manufacturer.

I agree with 'Pinches. Get a decent fixed HnR or Bilstein kit. These will be far more suitable for most people.

Coilovers are only really neccessary for track use where corner weighting and ride height adjustment (for different driving surfaces) are required (as opposed to slamming it -120mm at a poxy car show ).

What do Bilstein offer for the mk3 then? I've only ever seen standard replacement dampers... quite interested if they do uprated items.

Coilovers are only really neccessary for track use where corner weighting and ride height adjustment (for different driving surfaces) are required (as opposed to slamming it -120mm at a poxy car show ).

No coilovers are good for getting your car lower by the exact amount rather than having to choose in 5 or 10mm increments. Plus corner weighting and ride height adjustment can be equally as important on a road car.

My intial idea for suspension is:

Gaz Coilovers w/adjustable dampers & lowered steering arms

Eibach Springs...180 lb/inch front & 150 lb/inch rear.

VAG Top Mounts

VAG G40 Track Control Arms

Polybushed Front End

G-laderseite ARB blocks

GT/G40 Rear Beam

VAG Rear Axle Bushes

GED Front Lower Brace Bar

Front Upper Brace Bar (more for pimpy times looks than anything else)

14x6" BBS RA's

Reasonable profile tyres for a bit of feel and comfort.

Edited 12 August, 200719 yr by Tav

^^^^^^^^

oh fuk aye

i have 80mm philj kit

front car is poly'd with powerflex

rear will be var and g40 rear beam.. as i have fox.

decent low pro tyres...

it wont beat a scooby round a roundabout but hell it will give me a laugh

well thanks 4 everyones info. I'm guna av 2 get rear coilovers cus i got 2 get rid of the lean it annoys me everytime i look at the car.

@Tav,

Yeah that suspension setup 'list' would be my ideal too, but thats gonna cost around £700!

I still disagree with you on the subject of coilovers on road cars such as the Polo's.

Although "decent coilovers" are better in terms of adjustability and performance than the OE type uprated and lowered setup, for MOST people they are overkill.

You say that corner weighting is just as important in a road car and being able to adjust the ride height to whatever you want is important too?

Well, whilst corner weighting certainly is important on a track/race car so that you can optimise the car's suspension for each different track, improving handling, feel and roadholding, its highly unlikely that many people are gonna be too concerned (or even understand) the reasons behind the matter on their daily driver road car. On the mk1-3 Polo's for instance, the basic front end layout is the problem as opposed to the ride height/spring and damper rate.

And is it really important whether your car is lowered on a 60mm "spring kit" or 65mm on a coilover setup? You ain't gonna notice the difference anyway. If you want 60mm you buy a 60mm drop kit and so on. It'll be there or there abouts 60mm as not to matter.

Most people aint gonna spend £550 or whatever it is for a set of Gaz coilovers (yeah I'd love a set too!) when a HnR kit is so good for half the money.

I still reckon by far the majority of people on here who have coilovers on their road cars only have them fitted so they can run extremely low ride heights and try to look cool.

Check out some of the mk4's in the Gallery section for proof!

Even mrgt is only getting them because the back of his car "leans"!

Some people seem to think that fitting coilovers and slamming the car really makes it handle. Bullshit! You need some compliance and suspension movement for road use.

Not having a nag at you Tav, just my opinion.

Edited 12 August, 200719 yr by breadman

I think you under estimate what some people want from their road cars/Polo's. I'll agree a lot of people buy coil overs just to hump their car on the ground, and fair play if they want to do that. I'm just not willing to settle for a shock and spring kit that offers no adjustability and no information on spring rates.

Plus point for coil overs as well...I can run my 14 x 6" as a day to day performance wheel...but if I fancy popping on some pimp 13 x 7's and slamming it for a while I can do that as well.

I wouldn't consider spending £1000 on suspension if I just the wanted a car to look good.

Edited 13 August, 200719 yr by Tav

Its the flexibilty of coilovers that makes them more attractive to me. But i agree wholeheartedly that a good quality spring & shock kit will be miles better than a cheap coilover setup.

For mk3's you can use mk1 golf rear coilovers, and they can be found from some european sources fr around half the UK price too. You will still need mk3-specific fronts though, but at least you will save some cash and still be getting good quality product on the rears.