Very smart. You can fit a high lift cam with the Sorg cover (or 'Soro' as yours now reads,which is close to a direct translation from German to 'worry'). Beats me why the fins are lengthwise, if they are for cooling.

Looking great! Engine looks amazing, Cannot wait to see it in your polo 

I like the shinys :). Engine looking good! I hope to get mine looking as nice.

7 hours ago, dvderlm said:

Very smart. You can fit a high lift cam with the Sorg cover (or 'Soro' as yours now reads,which is close to a direct translation from German to 'worry'). Beats me why the fins are lengthwise, if they are for cooling.

cos they look cool :P

7 hours ago, dvderlm said:

Very smart. You can fit a high lift cam with the Sorg cover (or 'Soro' as yours now reads,which is close to a direct translation from German to 'worry'). Beats me why the fins are lengthwise, if they are for cooling.

 

4 minutes ago, setch said:

cos they look cool 😛

 

Having the fins at 90 degrees to the air flow will cause more turbulence with small circular eddies pulling more heat away from the cover and drawing cooler 'fresh' air in to their wake.  If the fins were in-line with the air flow front-to-back then they would create laminar flow so less efficient heat removal. That said it's probably not so technical and, as @setch says, they just look cool! 😆

On 10/01/2022 at 18:59, foreststu said:

Happy New Year all!

 

Santa was very generous and put a Sorg Motorsport valve cover under the tree for me. Granted I had to track it down, buy it, ship it from Germany and have a local machining company turn a plug and weld it in to block off an oil return from its previous life on a WL Motorsport race car. But still, better than socks!

 

I've also cleaned up the HH block using paint stripper, a wire wheel and then some gloss black Hycote engine enamel.

 

The gearbox next although it's much dirtier and with more crevices so not looking forward to starting that right now! 

Great work. The gearbox is easy I have done a few now. I'm currently cleaning my 1970 beetle gearbox now that's hard work compared.

On 12/01/2022 at 19:58, 1vw2many said:

Great work. The gearbox is easy I have done a few now. I'm currently cleaning my 1970 beetle gearbox now that's hard work compared.

 

Bit the bullet and got the gearbox done. Gave it a wash with lots of 'Elbow Grease' degreaser, bit of wire brushing then some Hycote aerosols; etch primer, gloss black wheel paint and lacquer.

 

Continued collecting parts alongside it and picked up an old stock reconditioned alternator, it's Hella rather than Bosch which came on the car  but a lot easier than refurbishing mine and probably no more expensive!

Edited 5 February, 20224 yr by foreststu

Hard work paying off 👍

It was a very spring-like dry and bright but cold Saturday this weekend so I took the Polo the second Bristol Volkswagen Swapmeet which was  bigger this time and incorporated a larger Show & Shine area. It was a good opportunity to get the Polo out and a more interesting place to give it the first clean of the year than the driveway would have been. I was surprised to pick up Best Watercooled with Best Aircooled going a lovely concours oval Beetle.

 

I need to start get on with the 1272 HH install ready for the summer so I headed to a local scrapyard and stripped a bolt set from a late Mk2 Polo MH engine breadvan that they've had there a while (not much left now).

 

I then sent those bolts and anything that I had to hand from the HH for cleaning and plating with yellow zinc passivate for that period chromate look. That included some tinware and the sump. My plan is to decipher what each bolt is by matching them up as I strip out the HA 895 but we shall see how reliable that approach turns out to be.

 

So I guess next step is getting started on the swap...

So parts collecting completed here are some old/new comparisons. Points type ignition replaced with electronic, new gaskets for the plated parts, NOS SACHS clutch kit, NOS starter, NOS alternator and Facet Gold-Flo with Malpassi Fuel King regulator instead of the mechanical pump. Also picked up a NOS VW cam belt and aux belt.

 

Then started building up

 

Used a Sytec fuel pressure gauge to set the pressure at 3.5psi and blocked off the return line (not removed in case I want it in the future).annoying that the Facet wants the outlet up and the Fuel King runs right to left, would have been much neater if the Fuel King has run left to right. 6mm hose from the tank to Fuel King then 8mm to Carbs just to match the unions I had.

 

Test drive was to a local free car show in my town, but I forgot to take any photos so this is the car on the way home after it

evolving nicely! Are you enjoying the extra cc's?

Edited 28 April, 20224 yr by setch

6 hours ago, setch said:

evolving nicely! Are you enjoying the extra cc's?

 

Yes, it's running well thanks

Was this at edition on Sunday ?

 

On 09/05/2022 at 18:09, Sunbeamlotus said:

Was this at edition on Sunday ?

 

 

@Sunbeamlotus Yes mate, saw yours there as well looking great. I hung about yours a bit to say hello but to be fair you could have been stood next to me and I wouldn't have known, ha!

 

So the HH got it's first real trial with the 2.5 hours to Early Edition by Edition 38. I was remarkably lucky and surprised to be offered one of the 20 spaces inside the hangar which it's fair to say gave me a pretty big helping of imposter syndrome but I'm glad I went for it. That meant leaving home at 04:30 to arrive at 7am as requested (alternative was to go up the night before but family/work etc.). Given the level of traffic at that time of a Sunday morning and the fairly dim headlights by modern standards I opted to do the slightly longer but faster motorway route. The HH proved totally worth it here as it is  much quieter, more comfortable at modern car speeds and plenty of fun. Almost the entire 2.5 hours was spent cruising at 70mph with the occasional overtaking test demonstrating that the noise of the twin carbs could still put a smile on my face. No radio and never will. I did the return journey cross-country at a more leisurely pace.

Shot of the car in the hangar below, yes that's a sheet of cardboard underneath as everyone had to have one - given this is an active airfield I think the carpet, full-width-bar and disco ball betray what this particular hangar is used for and it isn't planes!

 

I'd made one change for the show since the test run which was to add the matching Sorg Motorsport air collector box with a pre-oiled air filter. Fitting it wasn't the easiest including having to order  longer studs from a foreign scooter-parts supplier and, more intrusively, a 2-outlet brake master cylinder & bottle from a year 2000 facelift Mk3 Polo making up the other 3 outlets using splitters from a Mk3 Golf both pulled from scrapyard cars. The airbox has covers that drop down/out to allow access to the main/idle jet covers without needing to remove from the carbs, a feature I have needed and will touch on at the end.

 

I was cool to see some other Type 86 cars at the show including @Lovejoy's smoothed Mk1 Derby on Compomotive Turbos, @Sunbeamlotus genius hayabusa powered Mk1F Polo on Ronal Turbos (so much want for these wheels!) and @Luke Beckley's clean Mk1F Derby on ATS Pepper Pots.

 

The standard of cars across the field was amazing especially the plethora of Mk1 Golf's many of which were done totally to my taste. I was sure Steve would pick up an award but I was shocked that both he and I were given Top 20 Awards! I didn't even have time to ditch my backpack as I almost missed them calling my name as I was congratulating Steve who has just collected his so had to pile through the crowd, ha!

 

I had 2 niggles on the trip both I knew of before setting off.

First the carb idle circuit jetting was too lean. I was using 40F9 idle jets but these were too lean giving popping and spitting back when coasting on overspeed e.g. down a hill. To make the trip I opened the throttle butterfly valves a little more than they should be to engage the first hole of the progression circuit. This got me there but isn't how the DCOE are supposed to work and results in revs hanging when coming off the accelerator. More on this carb jetting issue to come as I've ordered some others to try.

Secondly the radiator fan switch wasn't coming on early enough meaning the engine was getting too hot before it would kick in. I knew on the way three I would be moving almost always so it wasn't an issue but on the way home I'd have queues and traffic lights to deal with so I made a little 2 inch bypass wire and used that for the trip. Once home I sourced a NOS 92-87 Deg C switch and NOS radiator fan which are now installed and working perfectly.

 

Edited 20 May, 20224 yr by foreststu

On 20/05/2022 at 22:58, foreststu said:

 

@Sunbeamlotus Yes mate, saw yours there as well looking great. I hung about yours a bit to say hello but to be fair you could have been stood next to me and I wouldn't have known, ha!

 

Yeah I was sleeping in my camper van ...... I drove the polo from stratford and it can be a hand full if you need to go slowly. I was knackered and needed a old man power nap !

Some great mk1 polo/derby on show and it's nice to see something different 

 

you may have spotted me looking at your door trim and seals lol

Great photos mate, and well done on the award, your mk1 really is something special 😎

Not much to update on mechanically but I have been using it quite a bit which is good!

After Early Edition i swapped out the carb Idle Jet from the 40F9 to some 45F9 I already had in the garage to richen the low-speed running around town (idle jet provides the fuel/air mix until the throttle is open enough to engage the main jet). This has allowed me to fully close the throttle plates and once warm there is no longer any popping on overspeed e.g. down a hill. I think a richer 40 aperture might be better like a 40F6 but these are running OK at the moment. 

 

First up was a 1 hour each way trip to the PlusFourFourAutomotive Show at Hartham Park and everything drove well.

 

Next was the slightly closer family-friendly weekend mini-festival that is Bristol Volksfest which had awesome weather, bands, entertainment and cars. Even better I was able to meet-up with Alex and his awesome G40 powered black Mk1f.

 

After those two reasonably local shows it was onto the 2-day Players Classic show at the iconic Goodwood Motor Circuit which is about 3 hours each way. Car drove perfectly and the historic location and set-up for this show is so good with racing/demos on-track Saturday and an additional 500 cars parked on the track itself along the pit straight for the Sunday. Again it was great to meet up with some other Type 86 owners and check out their cars; Steve's Mk1 Derby, Luke's 50 and great car chats with Caleb and Ryan about their Mk1f Polos which I hadn't seen before. 

To end the weekend on a massive high both myself and @Lovejoy were given Top 10 awards for the 'Players Parc Du Concours' area which was cars parked outside the central paddocks along the track. Really couldn't believe my Polo was picked out given the standard of show cars there especially as there is a big focus on alloys (main sponsors were Rotiform & Autofinesse) and I'm still rolling on stock 4.5" steels!

 

Hope everyone is having a good start to the summer!

45f9 versus 40f6. The Sorg plenum helps. I suggest you feed cold air to it in summer.

 

I'm using 44 in 7850.3 idle holders with DHLA 40s (and Amethyst mapped ignition). The .1 holder is like F8 and .3 is like F9. You shouldn't need rich F6 unless you fit big cam.

 

Wow where did that summer go! Didn't go to as many shows this summer but in July I made it to Dubs At The Castle in Caldicot which is always a good family weekend.

Debuted some new wheels which I'd given a DIY refurb, Fondmetal mesh 13x5" ET33 57.1cb 4x100. Not sure if they are just a rarely ordered narrow spec from their 1980's aftermarket range for VW's or if there is a better story out there. They were faded/flakey original silver all over when I picked them up on my way home from Tatton Park show last year. I've hand-sanded the lips to a 6ft-presentable level, painted the centres gold and put some custom stickers on the centre caps. I bought them as they had all the centre caps and I've never seen them before in 5" width (usually 6") meaning I could run the stock steel tyre size 135/80 r13. Obviously the offset is a lot lower than the ET50 steels which was no problem on the rear but meant I had to change to Max RPM camber adjustable top mounts at the front. I've set them at their max which is 1 degree.

 

August was family holiday time for us so no spare weekends for car fettling meaning the next outing was Edition 38 in September which I attended with Zeoriginals as part of their club stand. Not many Type 86's in attendance but managed to get a shot alongside Luke's awesome bronze Audi 50. Also managed to be awarded runner-up Polo to an extremely customised Mk2f G40 which won the Polo class.This meant I was able to collect the award from the infamous E38 drive-on stage, something I never thought I would do.

 

Not currently planning to attend anymore shows this year and no real plans for winter tinkering either!... I'm sure this state of affairs won't last long...

On 28/09/2022 at 19:47, foreststu said:

Not currently planning to attend anymore shows this year and no real plans for winter tinkering either!... I'm sure this state of affairs won't last long...

I’d think you would be too busy building a trophy cabinet to work on the car 

Hi Stu, just seen this video on youtube and the first thing I thought of was your window trims

 

 

Apparently the answer is UV bonded nail finishes!

Well this year has flown by, busy busy. Let's catch you up...

 

So I finished off 2022 with a mention in the Readers Rides section of PVW, older photos still on the 13 x 4.5" steel wheels not the 13 x 5" Fondmetal mesh alloys.

 

Before any shows or changes to the car I cashed-in a Christmas 2019 present from my girls which Covid had meant I couldn't do earlier. It was a two day trip to Wolfsburg in March including a visit to the VAG Autostadt and a factory tour on this first day when I saw an orange Audi 50 LS which lives in a glass box in the Autostadt car park. Then on the second day a visit to the VW Stiftung AutoMuseum which has a white Polo N on display albeit someone had later added waist trims and a 'Polo L' badge. 

 

The first show of 2023 was in early April. Coleford Carnival of Transport which is a local free show which takes over the town and used to be the UK's largest free vehicle show, not sure if it still is. Only change for this was some new wheels; polished 3-piece 14 x 5.5" custom milled from billet aluminium by Image Wheels near Birmingham. The wheel style is called Billet 17 and the tyres are Nankang 155/55 r14.  

 

In late April the Type 86 register I setup on Instagram www.instagram.com/Type86OC/ held it's first meet in conjunction with the Ze Originals club. This was a Club Stand at Stanford Hall VW Show which had a selection of cool cars from Ze Originals and 12 Type 86 vehicles! It was a stressful start getting passes to people but a great turnout with some lovely people so thanks to all that came. There were a couple of swaps from the line up in the photo due to availability but more photos are here: www.clubpolo.co.uk/topic/358840-uk-type-86-register-for-mk1-polo-mk1-derby-audi-50/

 

 

Then, after some time to recover, at the end of May I had two shows in one weekend. Firstly www.forgemotorsport.co.uk Brunch Club at their HQ in Gloucester on the Saturday and then Barryfornia hosted by clothing brand www.rothfink.com at Barry Island pleasure beach in south Wales on the Sunday. Unbelievably I picked up a trophy at both and both were filled with really nice people wanting to share information and stories about their cars. I was joined at Barryfornia by Alex in his awesome black Mk1f with a G40 engine.

 

A week later in early June I was on-call for work so couldn't travel far but as luck would have it a relatively new local VW show which had been held twice before Covid in Ross-on-Wye had decide to get a bit bigger and had moved even closer to me, still on the banks of the river Wye, in Monmouth. I headed down with a neighbour in their Bay Window bus and joined the Show & Shine which had only four categories; Best Paint, Best Interior, Best Daily and Best Not A Camper. I was please to have it confirmed that the Polo is not a camper and even more so to win that category! Plus the trophy was an etched pint glass, that's a winner.

 

A further week later approaching mid-June I had been accepted for Bristol Volksfest which is a huge weekend long music festival alongside a car show with lot of auto-jumble, clubs stands, several music stages, childrens entertainment, trade stalls and even a night club in a farm barn open well into the small hours. Again, an older photo from Edition 38 last year so on the Fondmetal mesh alloys although that said I still have both those and the steel wheels so will keep swapping them around in the future.

 

I had been working on a plan to try something different with the Polo and had sourced a NOS Kamei front spoiler from Germany which was in the process of being painted Manila Green. Although new, with the chassis suitability certificate and fitting kit attached to the rear of it, someone had removed the original sticker from the packet and stuck it directly onto the black ABS spoiler. As I wanted it to be painted, and finding that reproduction stickers in this size were not available and NOS ones were expensive and probably not questionably 'sticky' given their age, I made painstaking measurements so I could have my own reproduction made by www.oem-carstickers.com which would fit the embossed moulding in the spoiler itself. The fitting kit involved a set of self-tapping screws to affix it to the front panel and front wings. As I wanted this as a removable accessory and I didn't want to put unnecessary holes in any panels I fixed it at the front by changing the number plate holes to rivnuts and then borrowed from Japanese Tuner car styling in using a silver button an bungee to pull the spoiler in and down on each side where it meets the front wheel arches.

There are two types of Kamei spoiler designed for Type 86 vehicles. The first is dated 1976 and is pretty straight upright with a large Kamei logo and no profile on the edges, this is the type I could find. The other type is later, dated 1979, and I think might look better as is has a smaller Kamei logo, mid-ridge breaking up the vertical part and the sides have a molding continuing the wheel arch protrusion but I couldn't find one of these without paying about 50% more so i opted for the earlier type. Both are shown below with the earlier on top.

 

Following the Barryfornia show by Rothfink they had asked me to put the Polo on their trade stand for the Friday and Saturday at Bristol Volksfest before the Show & Shine happening on Sunday. I was happy to be asked especially as it gave me a secure area (the car boot) within the arena to store a small cool-box of beverages and whatever else I needed without having to walk back to our campervan in the camping fields. They were also beyond nice and welcoming, sharing their gazebo with my family and our dog when we were taking a break from the sunshine.

 

The Show & Shine came around on Sunday and there were a huge variety of Volkswagens on display plus some other hot rods and retro cars. Given that 120 cars entered the Show & Shine including PVW cover cars and featured cars I was very surprised to be awarded a Top 5 Watercooled trophy and happy to see another Type 86, Luke's blue Derby, also pick up a well-deserved Top 5 trophy. The trophies themselves were all different individual one-off works of art painted by www.instagram.com/hdpaintworks/ onto plaques made of aluminium. Once home I made a pair of acrylic stands for mine which worked well.

 

The next show is Players Classic at the iconic Goodwood Motor Circuit later in June which is a huge multi-marque show and one I'm really looking forward to especially as I had to miss Early Edition by E38 earlier in the year due to a family camping trip. 

Then, on the 24th July, we are having the second www.instagram.com/Type86OC/ meet. This time it is at the Caffeine&Machine automotive venue near Stratford-upon-Avon as a Club Night. C&M host Club Nights on either a Monday or a Tuesday 17:00-22:00 where they will reserve the front-of-house parking spots for that club and provide an entry and accomodation discount. If anyone is interested to join us the link is below, please note there is masses of parking but front-of-house will be reserved for Mk1 Polos, Derby and Audi 50 as the focus for the register.

https://www.eventbrite.com/e/type-86-owners-club-meet-tickets-643063609567 

 

I have see the post by our Admins tonight that they will be archiving this forum. Whilst sad, in reality traffic and engagement from the community on the forum is at an extremely low level. During this build I have found the knowledge captured in this forum to be extremely useful and much more reliable and easily accessible than posts on Facebook or Instagram where it seems you are reliant on hoping your post is seen by a dwindling number of properly informed and truly helpful people. That said I'm really happy they will be archiving and not deleting as we saw with other forums, notably Edition 38. I'm also really grateful that they have kept it going this long.

I'm not sure when the archiving will happen so this may be the last post I can add on this build thread. I complied this from nostalgia of how we used to do things and also to document my experience which may, in some way, help others with their projects.

For so long as it is available I will continue to update my back-up, although less detailed,  build thread here: www.vwvortex.com/threads/1977-mk1-polo-manila-green/

 

I can also be found here on Instagram: www.instagram.com/stuartcturner/ and regularly here on Facebook: www.facebook.com/groups/215218691834722/

 

Thank you to everyone who has said Hi at a show, left a comment or like and found this useful, always appreciated 👍

 

Well the forum is still here, not sure for how long but Players Classic 2023 has come and gone for another year. This really is an awesome show with so much to see, track day cars and demos on the race track Saturday then the hundreds of extra cars parked along the start/finish straight on the Sunday.

 

Last year I was in the Players Parc Du Concours which is the area outside the central paddock Saturday and on the track itself on the Sunday where I won a Top 10 award for that area last year. This year I was allocated to the Auto Finesse Concours D'Elegance area in the paddocks which the race track runs around so I was able to drive though the tunnel beneath the race track.

 

There were a couple of other Type 86 cars also in the Auto Finesse Concours D'Elegance, an early-look Mk1f Polo on Saturday although, aside from running over to say hello as they came in, I missed them during the morning as I walked back to the hotel for breakfast and I didn't spot them before they left in the afternoon.

 

During the park-up on Saturday morning I was surprised when Jay directed me out of the procession of cars driving towards the paddock garages to park on the central grass area where the stage is instead.

 

On the Sunday the only other Type 86 car was Luke's awesome Mk1f Derby on air-ride looking great as usual.

 

All cars are moved between Saturday and Sunday and so I got to have another first, parking up in one of the iconic paddock garages. I was also hugely chuffed to be selected by James from Auto Finesse for a Top 10 award in this area on the Sunday. The Polo has certainly received a lot of love at shows in 2023.

How is 2023 almost over, madness!

 

So, following the last post, the next show was Dubs At The Castle (DATC) in Caldicot and it rained a lot, luckily we had a new larger awning for the campervan. Also luckily, the Welsh are used to rain and it certainly didn't dampen any spirits thereby living up to expectation. The show has a theme each year and in 2023 it was Hawaii so we donned matching M&S palm tree outfits and got stuck in. Come Sunday I got as much of the campsite mud off the Polo as possible and drove into position in the show field. After an entertaining charity auction I was very surprised to be chosen for an award and I corrected a mistake from 2021, when I last picked up a trophy at DATC, by taking my daughter up to collect the trophy with me.

 

As mentioned in previous posts the next event was the second Type 86 OC (https://www.instagram.com/Type86OC/) meet at the Caffeine & Machine automotive venue on 24th July 2023. After taking the Polo to work in the morning I arrived early, cleaned up the Polo and had a lovely burger for lunch. Others then started to arrive, many before the 17:00 advertised kick-off time which was reassuring. By the time the evening started we had 6 Mk1 Polo and 5 Mk1 Derby which was an amazing turnout! I overheard the staff discussing this was fewer vehicles than a usual 'Club Night' but one of them did then point out "how often do you seen any this early!". Pizza, drinks a copious amounts of Polo-chat were had until they closed up at 22:00 and I stayed over in a comfortable room and headed back to work the next day.

 

During the drive home my noisy-but-bearable clutch release bearing decided to become unbearable and I limped home. On removing the gearbox the bearing had totally failed and the ball-bearings tumbled out. It was clear I'd driven home by grinding the bearing body against the pressure plate but hadn't damaged anything else. I'm not sure why it had failed as it was a NOS Sachs clutch but perhaps the bearing lubricant had dried out over time. I have replaced it with another NOS Sachs kit but this time of a newer type with a sealed cartridge release bearing so hopefully that lasts longer.

 

That's it for 2023 shows but I do have a big change planned for this winter which I'll update here once I've made some progress.

 

Hope you are all well and having a good year, Cheers.

Edited 29 October, 20232 yr by foreststu